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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:59 PM
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I'll feel more sympathy
for the offended Muslims when, 1) they learn to control there rage, and figure out how a multicultural society is supposed to work, and 2) we see a little respect for other religions in their own countries. How about the First Baptist Church of Mecca?


And really it is very interesting that people say this is an argument between the traditions of freedom of expression in the West, and the traditions of Islam and Muslims, when, in fact, one of the primary goals of the Sharia, the law of Muslims that is promulgated by individuals, is the protection of freedom of speech, the protection of the products of the mind, which is a blessing of God, but there is a difference between freedom of speech and the responsibility of speech, both by the speechmaker and by the authorities that are responsible for an amicable exchange between different members of a society. {NO, THERE'S NOT. FREEDOM OF SPEECH PERMITS THAT WE CAN OFFEND EACH OTHER AND SKEW EACH OTHER'S SACRED COWS}

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So they wanted to do some cheap domestic gain, and in that context
it was not a legitimate means of journalism; at the same time, compared to everything that you said very eloquently, there couldn't be bigger disagreement because the logic of your position, while you talk about benevolence and understanding and so in, is basically that one culture sets up a global standard under which anybody has to live.
{IS THAT THE WEST HE'S TALKING ABOUT, OR THE CALIPHATE?}

And, in Europe, for example, they report cases in France last fall where Jesus was depicted naked, with his -- with a naked erect member with a condom on, and the court in France -- there are lots of Catholics who were incensed by this --they took it to the court, and the court said, look, this is absolutely distasteful; we can understand that lots of people don't enjoy this, would have preferred not to have this published but, and this was the newspaper Liberation, but as a matter of separation of church and state, freedom of speech, all of our traditions established over the last 200 years, we have to put the freedom of expression over anything else.
MUSLIMS NEED TO LEARN TO LIVE IN THE WEST OR RETURN TO THEIR COMFORT ZONE.
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