Reply #69: It's painfully obvious you didn't bother to read what I wrote

[Jai4WKC08]

I never said getting shot was an accomplishment. I was talking about bravery, sacrifice and commitment.

But if you want to talk about whether there's accomplishment in getting shot, I can go there too. Again, that is. I wouldn't have to if you'd bother to read.

The accomplishment in Clark's getting shot lies in what he did AFTER he'd been shot. He saved the lives of his men by his actions. Damn few people could have taken four bullets, two to his torso and one to his leg, and continued to function at all. It's why he got the Silver Star.

Being a good leader is being a good leader -- taking care of those you lead and getting the job done -- whether the situations are violent or not. Most of the accomplishments listed in the OP have nothing whatsoever to do with violence, and nothing to do with militarism either. Clark is not a militarist and nothing in his resume at the DNC Winter meeting "glorified" war or violence. That he has been a leader under fire is still being a leader. It does not negate that he has been a leader in every other circumstance. And it does not detract from the leader he is today, as one of the few trying to stop an impending war with Iran.

But sorry, you're wrong. With rare exception, the military doesn't award Silver Stars for nothing, and MOST people do consider it a "resume builder." It is evidence bravery and sacrifice. Even if the recipient were a "racist asshole and rapist," at least for that one event of his life, he did something right, something he deserves to be proud of. You know, I almost think if Clark were a racist asshole rapist, you'd be more willing to acknowledge any one of his accomplishments, even the Silver Star, than for the fact that he's a stand-up guy who has done nothing but good for this country and our party.


About Southern Command, a regional command is not about commanding the other parts of the world, but it is about controlling the military operations taking place in those parts of the world. You ignore what the military did during the tsunami. Do you know how many earthquakes Clark has to respond to while he was EUCOM commander. Would I be "glorifying militarism" is I say the people in Turkey and Iran are damn glad he got our troops there in time to do some good? If there have been military operations in those parts of the world not quite so benevolent, I suggest you take it up with the civilian leaders who ordered the operations and the civilian legislators who authorize and appropriate for their execution.

Oh, and for what it's worth... in my 20+ years as an Army intell officer, I've known lots of "strategic intelligence analysts for the Army" who don't know shit.