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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:04 PM
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150. I read up on him too, all 3 of them
once I gave up on Gore.
Whose hands the country is in matters so much now.

I looked at their votes but none have that much time in. I expect decent votes but didn't expect much leadership yet, that takes some time. I read floor transcripts on important votes.

But I went back in time. Who are they and who were they. What choices did they make, what seemed to drive them, what do people say that work with, for against, over, under them. What did they get done and so on.

Amazing what you find. Some things you wish you didn't. I do know how to take things with a grain of salt and find other perspectives.

I did not get over the trust issue with John though I know people can really change and he may be sincere. He was great at emoting in court, that was his power. is court record worries me for the general too...especialy the Cesarean related law suits. I can just imagine the ways they could dig at all the trigger words and make him look like a giant insincere ambulance chasers. (I am not calling him that)

Hillary...well no please. All the more now.

Shocked me how. Lots on him as you dig because he did so much in the community for years after college and then Harvard Law Review president and then takes on this Project Vote fresh from that for 9 months. There artcles about him then (some reissued) are fun because they don't know they are talking about The Obama then. Things his students said in Constitutional Law. Then how he worked in the State Senate,,,some really controversial bills he got through and how and the way those had been violently opposed would react.

I list things he did but it isn't the list...it's the way and the outcome and the effect he has. Harvard Law Review wouldn't always count but the campus was in turmoil then (ironically largely racial tension) so he's presiding over people with all these diametrically opposed views. Or project Vote wouldn't except it's record setting change and successful and teaching wouldn't count except as students describe it you see the real "educate"...drawing forth.

When I hear people say details to plans should be more filled in I think no! no! He hasn't listened to people yet. He gets...the best out of things because he he hears and asks questions. OK I will stop because you don't know me from Adam, everyone hypes their candidate.

The best way to describe it is the I first heard him speak was after Iowa. I'd been researching him a long time and I knew his talk wasn't just pretty rhetoric. It wasn't just puffy beliefs, he's been working and walking that talk for 25 years.

A rare and genuine person and I'm over 50 and not easily impressed.
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