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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:08 AM
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74. Nothing wrong with being young & naive -or wanting to hope
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 09:10 AM by depakid
We all were like that at one time. The thing that age can give you though is perspective, and a sense of when of when someone's pulling your leg- and/or feeding into what may be your better qualities, but isn't on the level. Call it "horse sense."

Without perspective, with the rhetoric I've been hearing all you're likely to get is disappointment- and pardon us, but unlike you, we've seen this sort of deal all too many times before (and on this level, pardon us again- but you'll be taking all of us down with you).

One should note that the last parenthetical holds even more true with the Clintons. They don't seem to care who they take down with them- state and local candidates and ballot issues would suffer worse if they got the nomination.

That said- Obama cannot- and will not "persuade" or "inspire" Republicans in ANY region- nor will he end up with "independent" votes outside the blue states. Unity with Republicans is a farce- these aren't the type of people who'll be appeased. More often than not- they're not even rational, they'll vote against their own interests (for a variety of reasons, none of which Obama could overcome in 10 years worth of Sundays).

He won't change the nature of the electorate- the electorate is what it is. He won't change the nature of Republicans and their ilk, and most of us know that it's unrealistic to think so. That's just how it is- and if you need evidence (or even want evidence) just look to you're own living memory and think about how they've behaved over the past 15 years. They're not going to up and change their stripes, no matter how much you wish and hope they will.

What they respect (and all they respect) is someone who'll stand up and give them a tooth and nail fight. Platitudes about "unity" and "working together" -at best they laugh at that (unless of course what they're looking for is ways to further their far right agenda).

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