Reply #20: I'm doing this off the top of my head from memory...

[CitizenLeft]

...and perception, so feel free to go to Wikipedia after I'm done, LOL! But I'm thinking of that famous story of how Daly handed Kennedy the '60 election with some voting shenanigans in Chicago. Also, didn't Bobby work on McCarthy's HUAC committee? He did, for a short while. Also, JFK played politics with MLK and hesitated, at first, to take on that fight. When he did, he embraced it fully, but I believe he did weigh the risks - it was Bobby who made it his cause. Then there was Joseph Kennedy's history which I'd really have to look up. They were tough, organized, and calculating. And thank goodness for it... though, still, I'd rather not have to list those things.