Reply #33: How do you reason with people who are not reasonable in the first place?

[Sebastian Doyle]

For the last 28 years, this country has gone straight to Hell in a handbasket. Both in terms of domestic and foreign policy. And while the Clinton years may have seemed on the surface to be better than the Reagan & Poppy years, and certainly not as blatantly horrible as the Chimpministration, still a lot of damage was done by Team Clinton/DLC.

NAFTA (and all of its sequels). Welfare "reform". The 1996 Telecommunications Act which gave us FAUX Noise and Clear Channel. The repeal of Glass-Steagol which made the current fucked up economic state possible. And the forcing of the Democratic party to the right, which gave Chimp plenty of spineless "Democratic" enablers to do his worst all over the planet.

So it's kind of hard to "reach across the aisle" when all the reaching has gone in the WRONG direction for nearly three fucking decades.

Obama says "a good idea is a good idea whether it comes from a Democrat or a Republican." Theoretically, that's a true statement. But when the fuck was the last time a Republican HAD a good idea? Or even a DLC'er, for that matter?

The good ideas, unfortunately are the ones that have been ignored most of the time. (i.e. HR676, which is essentially the same good idea Harry Truman had 60 years ago).