Reply #159: So you are saying that Bill forced Obama to host McClurkin?

[Bluenorthwest]

You keep talking about Party leadership when being asked about the real time, current actions by your candidate. You are refusing to speak to the topic and want to talk about Bill Clinton.
What do you think about Democratic candidates allowing religious speakers to hold up speific minority groups for ridicule, by name and at length at official events, in general?

Your view as I see it is this: The GOP was terrible for using the gay baiting religionist tactic, Bill Clinton was terrible for not 'countering' that tactic directly, and yet somehow Obama is dandy-o when he employs that tactic himself, just as the GOP did. Terrible, terrible, and dandy-o. How you make that leap is beyond me.
And let's take a moment to talk about efforts to counter homophobia in the churches, black and white, because I have been doing that for well over 20 years, with other Democrats, with ministers and Gospel stars too. In black and white and multi colored churches. A great example of what you seem to not know, and what I seem to know is embodied in that fine Democrat, Patti LaBelle. Ms.LaBelle was the headliner at the first large AIDS fundraiser I attended back in 'the day', which was organized by African American church groups along with the Rev Carl Bean and Dionne Warwick. Democratic politicians were helpful and in attendance, a few spoke too. The message was strong against ignorance and for acceptance for the sake of the lives of humans of all races, life or death. Ignorance or death. It was an amazing night filled with the Spirit and the very cream of the Gospel world on the stage. So that is what a whole bunch of Democrats and Church leaders have been doing, for decades.
Now let's flash forward to DNC convention 2004, Obama becomes a star, and Ms Patti LaBelle is there to bring the house down. At The GOP Convention, the otherside is up to their stuff, and the headliner was Donnie McClurkin.
So no matter what you did for all of this time, many other brave Democrats both black and white and straight and gay have been working tirelessly to counter the GOP/Obama tactic of using gays as vote bait in African American and white churches, Ok? You did nothing I guess, and although he was old enough, I never heard of Barack Obama having a thing to do with countering that tactic until he wanted to grab high office. His home chruch of 20years did, but Obama, who could have done plenty, just did not.
Others did.
And Obama picked McClurkin over LaBelle and an entire universe of Gospel stars that have done the good work. And not just McClurkin but 4 well known anti-gay acts. He picked them and in doing so gave voice to them instead of those who have been doing the work that you so self righteously think was not done at all. Bill could have done more, but he did help us and did not aide them, Obama is aiding the other side in a long and ongoing battle. He painted the Gospel world as bigoted in the eyes of white Americans and the chruches as so venomous they would not vote for a man who did not gay bait a bit. And where he could have brought them lights on the path forward, he brought them the very people who use them and me as divices for profit and power.
What have you been doing to make for understanding bud? My creds are in order. Fully. I was and am,there, on the right side, with Democrats. Where have you and Obama been? We could have really used the help.