Reply #135: Gore won - If only for that, this does not stand.

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We lost for many reasons, from electoral fraud to the fact that the Democrats did not do the best job in mobilizing their voters (where was the DNC in 2001-2002-2003-2004). May be Dean can do something there, like making people understand that, even in blue and red states, it is important for the Democrats to go out and vote. I know too many people in CA and MA that stayed home while the GOP was having people out. Building the grassroot organizations which will do the local GOTV effort is the role of the DNC and of the local organizations, and I hope Dean is going to be great on that.

I dont think we lost to Bush, I think we lost because their machine paradoxally has cultivated the grassroots for years while the Clinton Democrats have forgotten they needed the grassroots and have only focused on big money (and have been doing a good job on that, but it is not enough). And of course, electoral fraud did a lot too, not only Diebold, but all that is done to make sure than poor working people cannot go to vote (long lines, hours, ...).