Reply #137: Kerry won, too.

[Vektor]

Both elections were stolen flat out lock, stock, and barrel - there's way too much evidence.

What did it for me (besides the mountain of evidence that has been discussed and introduced on DU for over a year now) was when Walden O'Dell, chair of the Bush re-election committee for the state of Ohio, and former owner of Diebold (resigned suddenly when fraud investigations began) publicly promised at a fundraiser - on tape, with a snicker - to "deliver Ohio's electoral votes to George W. Bush" then proceeded to do just that.

Also a co-chair in Bush's Ohio re-election committee? Corrupt SOS, Ken Blackwell.

When a recount was ordered, Blackwell hand picked the counties that were "allowed to be recounted."

Totally illegal, since it is supposed to be a random selection.

Hell, no. Bush did not win '04. Wally O'Dell and Kenny Blackwell selected him.

Take a look around the Election Reform forum for mountains of supporting data to comb through.

And check out the Government Accountability Office's report on the fraudulent election of 2004. A legitimate government office declared the election result unreliable, suppression and systematic disenfranchisement widespread, and the machines totally hackable.

http://searching.gao.gov/query.html?qt=election+machines&charset=iso-8859-1&col=audprod&col=legal&amo=2&ady=27&ayr=2005&bmo=2&bdy=28&byr=2006

Articles 1&3 are particularly interesting.