Reply #164: that is simply not true, have you never studied history?

[pitohui]

the entire history of the christian religion, the one i'm most familiar with, is of torture and death for gays who refuse to be closeted, except for a few scant decades in a few small places in all of the existence of christianity

religion profits by controlling family life and reproduction to produce more "believers" i.e. people of faith rather than logic who will fork over their time and money to the religion

anything that subverts control of the sex life and the family life is a threat to religion, if only they were honest about it

religion is not about "love," that's how they pick your pocket, it's about money like any other group of power mad old guys telling you how to think and how to screw