Reply #54: I've thought about this alot -- what would it REALLY take for "us" to "stop them"?

[scarletwoman]

Imho, the only way it could actually be done would involve people absolutely dedicating their entire lives to it. As in, giving up everything -- quitting your job, selling your house, find new homes for your pets, writing your will, etc. -- and going underground. A REAL underground: an underground railroad kind of underground, a French Resistance kind of underground, a well-hidden guerilla cells kind of underground.

Obviously, something like that can NOT be organized from the comfort of our keyboards and monitors. You'd be busted as "terrorists" faster than you can say "Patriot Act".

But that's what I think it really comes down to. Hoping for change through electoral politics is a laugh, our "elected" officials are owned by the very system that needs to be confronted and changed.

So, unless there's a way to move a significant number of people from the fantasy activism of online bitching to making the deadly serious committment to acts of civil disobedience, monkeywrenching, and whatever else might be necessary -- putting their bodies and lives on the line -- "stopping them" is NOT going to happen.

sw