Reply #13: If they do it over there, they'll do it at home.

[Octafish]

Unlike returning soldiers, these turds aren't liable under the UCMJ. Thus, they can get away with murder. And nothing is there to stop them from murdering again. Especially George W Bush. And you know what these Waffen SS feel about Liberals and Democrats, those they consider "socialist." They are untermenschen and fit only for disposal. So, the crazy monkey and the sneering sociopath are sort of a culmination. Ja.

Allen Dulles, the NAZIs and the CIA

Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg once stated that "The Dulles brothers were traitors."  Some historians believe that Allen Dulles became head of the newly formed CIA in large part to cover up his treasonous behavior and that of his clients.  -- Christian Dewar, Making a Killing

Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man.  He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life.  In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy."  They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis.  In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell." -- Michael Hasty, Paranoid Shift


The study of the past is beset by uncertainty.  Experts on ancient inscriptions can easily get into arguments over whether or not two prominent people with the same name were actually a single individual.  The student of modern history doesn't normally run into such problems because our lives today are so well documented.  But suppose that most present-day records were to be lost in the course of time, leaving only a few  semi-mythic narratives.  In that case, future historians might well conclude that the only way to make sense of the twentieth century was by assuming that there were actually two Allen Dulleses.

One Allen Dulles, they would tell us, was the head of a powerful group of covert agents who served the great American Republic at mid-century. The other, who lived and worked slightly earlier, had been dedicated to promoting the interests of the Nazi Reich, which was the sworn enemy of the Americans.  Despite the coincidence of names, there could obviously have been no connection between them.

We, with our documentation intact, have no choice but to accept that these two Allen Dulleses were one and the same.  But the price of our superior knowledge is that for us the twentieth century threatens to make no sense at all.

How do we begin to untangle this puzzle?  Perhaps it would help if we went back to the start.

Allen Welsh Dulles was born to privilege and a tradition of public service.  He was the grandson of one secretary of state and the nephew of another.  But by the time he graduated from Princeton in 1914, the robber baron era of American history was coming to an an end, ushered out by the Sherman Anti-Trust Act -- which had been used in 1911 to break up Standard Oil -- and by the institution of the progressive income tax in 1913.  The ruling elite was starting to view government less as their own private preserve and more as an unwanted intrusion on their ability to conduct business as usual.  That shift of loyalties in itself may account for many of the paradoxical aspects of Dulles's career.

Dulles entered the diplomatic service after college and served as a State Department delegate to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, which brought a formal end to World War I.  The Versailles Treaty which came out of this conference included a provision making it illegal to sell arms to Germany.  This displeased the powerful DuPont family, and they put pressure on the delegates to allow them to opt out.  It was Allen Dulles who finally gave them the assurances they wanted that their transactions with Germany would be "winked at."

Dulles remained a diplomat through the early 1920's, spending part of that time in Berlin.  However, he left government service in 1926 for the greener pastures of private business, becoming a Wall Street lawyer with the same firm as his older brother, John Foster Dulles.

By the middle 20's, Germany had started recovering from the effects of the war and its postwar economic collapse, and the great German industrial firms were looking like attractive investment opportunities for wealthy Americans.  W.A. Harriman & Co., formed in 1919 by Averell Harriman (son of railroad baron E.H. Hariman) and George Herbert Walker, had led the way in directing American money to German companies and had opened a Berlin branch as early as 1922, when Germany was still in chaos.  At that time, Averell Harriman traveled to Europe and made contact with the powerful Thyssen family of steel magnates.  It was to be a long-lasting and fateful partnership.

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http://www.enter.net/~torve/trogholm/secret/rightroots/dulles.html

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