Reply #11: an additional problem is the propaganda which will blame Dems for losing Iraq

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the first time I heard someone say the Dems lost Vietnam by insisting on ending the war I laughed thinking the speaker an idiot with no sense of history. But now many (most? all?) republicans say we could have won Vietnam had it not been for the peacenick Democrats. Insane BUT it is gaining traction.

The most dishonest use of that lie is the Republican who says Dems lost us Vietnam costing the lives of millions blah blah because the dems are weak and have no guts while in the next breath they say the dems won't vote to cut funding or stop Iraq because they are weak and have no guts. It's impossible to win with those types (Pat Buchanon comes to mind as saying exactly that...on different days...and no one calls him on it even though dems appear opposite him on Joe's show.)

Of course, I don't know what the answer is.

Maybe bring it up again in 3-6 months saying "you've had your surge, now what?" fund the war incrementally....6 months at a time....saying we want to see progress or at least a freaking plan!