Reply #57: yes and no

[booley]

Hatred plays a part. but WHY is there hatred? hatred is a consequence, not a cause by itself. hate comes from somewhere.

In fact, hate is a poor way to define it. people hate for all sorts of reasons and some are legitimate.

After all, I know many here hate how the constitution is being subverted and hate the war and hate liers and war profiteers.

You have to attack the foundations of the hate you see in republicans while also reinforcing the Liberal values that counters it. Especially since Bigots almost never understand they are bigots. So pointing out they are hateful won't cut it. Because even if they admit they hate a certain group, they will still claim they have good reasons.

So attack those reasons. Like a lot of prejudice among conservatives is the idea that there is a heirarchy, a natural order to things. Not coincidently this idea is also prevalent in religion. Gays can't get married, you see, because that would mean a gay relationship is equal to a traditional man/women marriage.

So how can we show that this heirarchy idea is wrong while also reinforcing liberal ideas like fairness and empathy and the right of people to live their own lives?

"That they have succeeded so far as to have our Democratic front runners deny equal rights to, say, gay couples, is a measure of how successful they have been"

There's an even better way t judge the conservatives success... that the vast majority of Americans do not describe themselves as Liberals... but when asked what their individual beliefs and values were they had more in common with Liberals then conservatives. In other words, many people, including some conservatives, are actually liberal. The trick is getting these people to understand that.