Reply #107: Excellent post ... but want to add a point ---

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When you left Republicans, you had somewhere to go --

fortunately you turned also from Libertarians -- and then moved to Democrats --

It looks like you want to support small "d" democracy and progressive agenda --

One of our problems here is, we have no where else to go because we haven't fought

to support third parties nor IRV voting --

In fact, Democrats have been made afraid of third parties to their left --

This leaves them with no leverage whatsoever on the Democratic Party, as was quite

plain re the Pelosi/Reid agenda --

And a resistance here to discuss this issue because of ONLY big "D" support --

IMO, if there is further take over of the Democrats by the DLC moving party to the

right, we need a Plan B.


AGREE on all of this ...

You're right about Libertarians -- worse than GOP.

And heartily agree with this ...

Obama has kept George Bush's Secretary of Defense, and we are going to have the same person who has been overseeing this illegal and immoral war for the past two years is going to continue to oversee it as a member of the Obama Administration. At the same time Obama is about to send more troops into Afghanistan, to continue another pointless war that has been going on for seven years now with nothing to show for it. We still have no clue where bin Laden is, in fact we don't even know if he is alive any more, and the rest of the people involved in the 9/11 attacks were not even from Afghanistan. The war in Afghanistan is wrong, it has always been wrong, and it needs to end. If Obama really is going to send more troops to Afghanistan he is wrong, he is dead wrong in fact and he needs to be called out on it.


Also agree Obama is totally wrong on gay marriage --

And true, we've had too much of this kind of thoughtless rebuttal ...

mainly focused on trying to "shut up" posters making comments they don't want

to hear.

When you speak out however please make sure you are speaking out for what you believe in, and not merely engaging in ad hominem attacks and shouting down those who are saying things you don't want to hear.