Reply #152: The problem is in calling one side "action liberals" because it implies

[EFerrari]

the other group is not active or not effective or something. There must be a better descriptor.

What we seem to be skirting is the difference between people who would rather work pretty strictly (but not exclusively) with party politics, with the hierarchy that involves v. people who are more apt to engage in social justice actions (with the decentralization that involves).

They're two different but potentially overlapping and complimentary modes. In a way, we're talking about framing activism in a way people can accept and respond to in a positive way.