Reply #546: Yes, like ending torture as a policy of this country,. Those sitting

[sabrina 1]

in our gulags around the world, those still being renditioned, their families and loved ones, don't really have time to wait for 'action liberals' to finally get around to actually doing something about it. Many have died already, or been rendered insane, innocent people, while 'action liberals' deliberated over the politics of it all.

I'm 'other' just someone who will keep on whining about such things as those being tortured or bombed to smithereens by our drones, because this is an emergency situation, lives are at stake and it's being treated as thought the decision was 'should we have the Merlot or the Sauvignon with dinner'?

Some of us will keep on whining about the fact that the rule of law has not been reestablished and that while the so-called 'action liberals' are quite content with the proclamations of 'moving on' from war crimes, we will keep on whining and agitating and acting to try to get this done.

Non-action on the rule of law! If this is what 'action liberals' call action, then I think we 'others' will simply have to leave them in their comfortable homes where they find it possible to ignore the torture and renditions and drone murders of innocent civilians.

Of course if they were to join those of us who would like to see some action on these massive crimes, we could get it done more easily. In fact I see 'pragmatic' or 'action liberals' as they define themselves as a big boulder in the way of progress because of their willingness to just follow the leaders instead of lead themselves on issues as important as restoring sanity, the rule of law, in this country.

The screams of the tortured don't have to be heard literally, but personally I hear them anyhow and find it abhorrent to hear any American say 'we just can't do that right now, it's politically naive to think we can'.

Well call me naive. Because we could, if everyone joined in the effort, rather than worry about their team maybe losing an election. A good leader would simply do it. But why should the leaders do it when their followers give them a pass?