Reply #54: Todays Civil wars are not like they were in 1861...

[Ozymanithrax]

They will not march out with Army of Virginia led by a modern Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. The model is Intifada. A small group of dedicated people can blow a lot of stuff up, kill a lot of individuals, and make life for the majority hell. When you add a much larger group, unwilling to kill but willing to hide those committing acts of violence, like the Christian groups that hide people who blow up abortion clinics, you have a very ugly little war.

And I don't think secession is legal even with a 2/3rd referendum. Probably a new Constitutional Convention would be necessary to legally and peacefully dissolve the Union.