You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #34: The reason cars and trucks got bigger over the years.... [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 01:33 PM
Response to Original message
34. The reason cars and trucks got bigger over the years....
...was that you have to sacrifice a lot of creature comforts for a relatively small increase in fuel economy.

Even a "small" car weighs in the 3,000 pound range... my Subaru Imprezea sportwagon AWD clocks in at about 3,200 and consistantly gets 28-29mpg on the highway (27 acording to the EPA).

A 10% increase in curb weight and a 10% increase in frontal area leads to a significant increase in things like legroom and storage, and people were willing to lose an MPG or two for the extra room. A big honkin' Crown Victoria gets 24 highway miles, and an AWD Ford Taurus (one of the new ones) gets 25mpg, according to the EPA.

So for a 10% drop in fuel economy, a consumer could go from a compact all-wheel-drive wagon with 173 horsepower to a full-size AWD sedan with 263 horsepower.

:shrug:


And back in the 90's, your choice for family tranportation was a mid-sized sedan that got maybe 22 miles per gallon, a minivan that got maybe 20 mpg, or a larger, 4-wheel-drive SUV that got 18mpg. For a lot of people, that tradeoff made sense. A couple hundred or so dollars a year in gas extra for something that could go in the snow, haul a trailer, and rated high in physical comfort.


Compare:

1995 Honda Accord: 20/27 city/highway (AT, 4-cyl, FWD)
1995 Ford Windstar: 16/23 city/highway (AT, 6-cyl, FWD)
1995 Dodge Caravan: 15/20 city/highway (AT, 6-cyl, 4WD)
1995 Ford Explorer: 14/18 city/highway (AT, 6-cyl, 4WD)

You've got a growing family and live in the snow belt. Which one do you buy?


And I knew several people that had an SUV or minivan for the stay-at-home mother and a subcompact sedan for the commuting father. The mom only drove a few miles a day in the "gas-guzzling" family hauler and the father burned only a couple of gallons of gas a day in "gas-sipping" commuter car. Total fuel consumption by the entire family was probably less than 4 gallons a day.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC