Reply #18: I agee with a lot of what you wrote.

[conservdem]

The underwear bomber was according to reports caught in the act. We pretty much know he is the guy who did it.

Lumping KSM and the underwear bomber together is your mistake. PLEASE FOR GIVE THE CAPS. NOT YELLING JUST TRYING TO DISTINGUISH MY RESPONSES. IF LUMPING THEM TOGETHER IS MY ONLY MISTAKE, I'M HAVING A GOOD DAY. I TAKE IT YOU'RE OK WITH TRYING THE UB WITH A MILITARY TRIBUNAL.

Now KSM is another matter. The Bush administration has admitted to torturing the fuck out of him so he would likely admit to anything. AGREED. He pretty much did after Bush's thugs got done with him. And if that isn't enough Bush had his two young children taken into custody too.

If some thugs of Bush were holding your kids wouldn't you say whatever those thugs wanted you to say to try and protect your kids? I would. AGREED, I WOULD DO THE SAME.

We tried this torture stuff before once in the US. It was called the Salem Witch Trials. You were probably taught about it in grammar school. I was. Those people who were dunked under water pretty much all admitted to being Witches. How many of them do you think were really Witches? NONE.

In recent history we had a Chicago Police Commander by the name of Jon Burge who was torturing suspects into admitting to capital crimes that these men knew they would be sent to death row for if they signed a confession. After checking we discovered that 13 out of 25 men on the Illinois death row were factually innocent. Not innocent because of technicalities mind you. Factually fucking innocent. Think about that for a minute. I AM NOT SURPRISED BY THE CONDUCT OF THE OFFICER OR THE FALSE ADMISSIONS.

No, I want the actual people who are responsible for 9/11 brought to justice. Not some schmuck who was tortured into admitting being a Witch.

How about you? YES. BUT I AM STILL WILLING TO LET A MILITARY TRIBUNAL, SUBJECT TO APPELLATE REVIEW, TRY KSM. I WOULD LET THE TRIBUNAL DETERMINE WHAT IF ANY EVIDENCE IS ADMISSIBLE OR NOT ADMISSIBLE BECAUSE OF TORTURE.

AGAIN PLEASE FORGIVE THE cap letters.