Reply #71: Did you even understand what I wrote? Do you even know what core values are?

[IndianaGreen]

There is no moral core in Hillary, other than what's good for Hillary

Posted by IndianaGreen in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)

Thu Mar 15th 2007, 12:36 PM

An example of core values was the recent statement issued by an Evangelical organization that condemned human rights abuses committed by the US government under the pretext of fighting the War on Terror. This group of evangelicals took a strong position against torture, rendition, physical deprivation, and other human rights abuses committed in CIA secret prisons, Guantanamo, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

Another example of core values was the late Pope John Paul II's warning to Bush and Blair that if they went into Iraq, they would do so without G_d. The Pope's warning was prompted by his resolute belief in the sanctity of life. The Pope's consistent opposition to the taking of human life, at any stage of life, is illustrative of a moral core. Those that disagreed with him on principle, also had a moral core.

Pax Christi, a Catholic group that organized an anti-Bush demonstration when he came to Notre Dame campus shortly after the war began, also has a moral core, as does Code Pink.

Some issues are clear cut, requiring a strong stance, and are not subjected to "tactical" or "strategic" or "triangulation." An example of "tactical" or "strategic" was the US support of South Africa's apartheid government on the basis that South Africa provided the West with strategic metals, such as chrome for the bumpers of our cars.

For progressives, wars of aggression are always wrong, as is torture, denial of habeas corpus, infringement of women and LGBT rights. The question as to General Pace's remarks that gays were immoral for just being gay, should have been met with a strong and immediate response in opposition. A person whose core belief is that LGBTs are entitled to the same rights and privileges enjoyed by straight citizens, would have answer immediately and without hesitation. A person that lacks such core belief would have responded as Hillary did.