Reply #15: Agree with all you say, but

[suffragette]

I think the shift to compliance began earlier when when metal detectors started being installed in schools and students being searched started being introduced more often. And events started having security checks of bags, pockets etc at the doors.

After 911, it became more widespread, more intrusive and with more expensive equipment (and $$$ contracts for those businesses).

The mindset, both from the authoritarians wanting all the searching and those who have become so accustomed to it that they now feel safer with it and fearful in its absence had already been building. 911 was the excuse to implement more widely.

I'm not sure at this point how we get this scaled back again.

As you noted, even on DU, there's not only acquiescence, but agreement and defense by some with this direction, even to the extent of casting doubt on why people would have issues with such intrusive methods.

At one point, when they first introduced the new groping a few years ago, it was condemned, rejected by the public and quickly withdrawn. But it was reintroduced, partnered with the the scanners as an alternative/addition to high-tech intrusion and though some people balked and continue to, has been forced and enforced as the new standard.

It keeps increasing and I don't know how to slow that.