MSNBC: BREAKING NEWS - Judge In Saddam Trial Found Murdered

[matcom]

breaking

presiding judge in Saddam Hussein trial

[NNN0LHI]

2. Thats terrible n/t

[saigon68]

53. FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH

Ass Clowns all.

[meganmonkey]

3. um...wow!

:wow:

[SeanQuinn]

4. When I turned on my TV, MSNBC was on..lmao.

Abrams is on and there are constant reports when the news on the trial breaks.

[Kimber Scott]

25. I don't get the humor?

Am I missing something?

[SeanQuinn]

31. It was ironic that I turned on my tv and clicked this post at same time.

On the issue itself, it's a shame.

[truthpusher]

50. Wow, your avatar penguin sure looks sad? What's up with him?

[Kimber Scott]

55. Now I get it... nt

[sasquatch]

5. CIA did it

The Bush Crime Family wants to link all these attacks to Saddam so they bumped off the Judge to make it look like that.

[dave29]

11. nah, just makes Iraq look

it's still under Saddam's grip, which makes Bushco look like more and more of a failure.

[Canuckistanian]

18. Anything that reinforces the "Saddam Loyalists" scapegoat story

Oh and BTW, its "SCHWEINEgesichtige Hure".

[sasquatch]

22. Translation:

Pig faced whore

[Junkdrawer]

43. Anyone got a program? I can't tell one murderous group from another...

without a program.

[schrodingers_cat]

57. Sasquatch...

Language dear, language...there are German kids that read this forum :+

[sasquatch]

58. I'm sure they speak worst

:evilgrin:

[Karenina]

65. Errraaaa...

für... schwein... NOT an easy language! :silly:

[dave29]

6. uh oh

someone better start spinnin this real fast... I'm looking at you Bushco.

[sea dee]

59. Rest in peace

well I for one hope this man gets to R.I.P.

[sea dee]

60. well I for one hope this man gets to R.I.P.

well I for one hope this man gets to R.I.P.

[DeaconBlues]

7. more signs

that the back of the insurgency is broken. I don't think I can take all this good news!

[MikeG]

8. That country is a long way from being civilized. Thank you W.

[Renew Deal]

9. Oh boy

That's funny and not in a good way. The guy had guts taking that trial.

[TellingLies1]

10. Terrible. But they've got a bunch of

judges trained in case something like this happened.

[rooboy]

14. Cannon fodder judges. You've got to be kidding, right? n/t

[TellingLies1]

34. It was supposed to be sarcastic, sorry!!!

I forgot to put the snark in at the end!

[Atlas Mugged]

20. Of course!!!

Not only are they qualified - they're eager to take this case!!!

[Renew Deal]

26. lol

:nuke:

[Renew Deal]

21. Target practice

Who's next? I wish it wasn't that way, but it is. He should be sent to the Hague. It doesn't make sense to do it in Iraq.

[The_Casual_Observer]

45. I guess you would know. How many are there 10, 20?

[matcom]

12. update (still looking for link)

assassinated as he left his home in Baghdad

developing...

[Renew Deal]

17. I thought his identity was supposed to be a secret.

Also, why wasn't this guy protected and what happened to Saddam's trial? Did they decide to just not have it because he was mouthing off.

[agitpropagent9]

44. name released in UK paper

apparently, fisk outed him.


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/11733556?source=Evening%20Standard

[Career Prole]

13. Who'll play the game with Saddam now?

Who'll play Rock, Paper, Saddam?

[leftofthedial]

15. freedom seems to agree with some Iraqis

some more than others

[daleo]

16. Same thing happened in the U.S. yesterday.

A judge who ruled in a notorious white supremacist case had her husband and mother murdered. So, this can happen anywhere. Although, I imagine being the judge for a political trial in an occupied country really puts a target on your head.

[RobertSeattle]

19. Ballots don't don't stop bullets and bombs

[leesa]

23. BushCo will do anything to keep this guy from a trial.

[joefree1]

24. So, who thinks this ain't another Vietnam now?

One two three what we fighting for ...?

[dave29]

27. Related: Saddam's Lawyer says trial will be "unfair and unsafe"

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/11024461.htm?1c

TOKYO - A lawyer for Saddam Hussein on Tuesday condemned plans to try the former Iraqi leader by a U.S.-funded special court, saying it is illegitimate, and claimed that he and other members of his defense team have been denied access to the former Iraqi leader.

Saddam and his 11 top lieutenants have been held for months in an undisclosed location, believed to be near the Baghdad International Airport, west of the capital. They appeared before the Iraqi Special Tribunal in July 2004 to face preliminary charges from the former regime.

[Renew Deal]

29. Send him to the Hague.

I am sure that they can handle it.

[applegrove]

28. America did deals with Saddam for years knowing full-well he was

a sociopath. Looks like Saddam's network is still in place.

[thebigidea]

30. msnbc lied outright about how facing Saddam made him "widely admired"

"and respected"

uh huh. widely, huh? I don't suppose they could dig up a single shred of evidence about that, or one person who admired him that wasn't being paid to say so?

he was humiliated by a toothless, bedraggled Saddam in a trial they quickly put on hold because it was a massive pr blunder.

I guess they hoped to try again with better set design and a big theatrical cage.

too bad this clown didn't get to play the part of a judge.

[dave29]

32. Still no link?

Can't find one

[Career Prole]

33. They're down to six judges and four prosecutors now.

From CBS in April, 2004...

AP) The names of the prosecutors and judges who will try Saddam Hussein and his Baath Party inner circle will remain secret until pretrial questioning begins, in an effort to protect them from supporters of the ousted leader, the tribunal's head said Wednesday.

The questioning could start in two or three months, though no date has been set for the trial itself, said Salem Chalabi, the court's newly appointed top executive.

Seven judges and four prosecutors have been named, but their identities have not been disclosed "for security reasons" and will not be revealed until "the investigation officially begins with the defendants," Chalabi told The Associated Press.

Five judges have been killed since the fall of Saddam's regime a year ago, mostly for ties with the U.S. -led coalition.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/21/iraq/main613061.shtml

Ahem...six judges have been killed since the fall of Saddam's regime.

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[matcom]

36. FOX: BREAKING NEWS - Judge In Saddam Trial Found Murdered

the new rules have forced me to post from THIS site :eyes:

look at the banner headline - (thanks alot)

http://www.foxnews.com/

[Guaranteed]

What the FUCK????

JUDGES ARE OFF-LIMITS, you fucking PIECES OF SHIT.

What in the HELL is this?????????

[Cooley Hurd]

From the faux link (it's not Salem Chalabi)...

<snip>
U.S. officials confirmed Judge Raid Juhi al-Saadi (search) has been killed, and Iraqi officials are expected to provide details on his assassination.
</snip>

[paineinthearse]

Blame it on Bubba.

[YDogg]

I guess they ...

... hated him for his freedom.

Sorry to hear this.

[MikeG]

You can't trust Fox News.

[Renew Deal]

37. I smell tombstone

:evilgrin:

[Cha]

40. ..

:evilgrin:

[sasquatch]

38. CIA did it

The Bush Crime Family ordered the hit because they still want to link the insurgents to Saddam.

[dave29]

1. All it does is link the insurgents to their inability

to make Iraq safe, after their pointless war.

[Fenris]

39. "Let's go out to Geraldo Rivera standing outside the courthouse for more."

[doxieone]

41. So much for democracy...

[babylonsister]

42. Just heard this on MSNBC, too. It's twue! nt

[Renew Deal]

46. MSNBC just said it was not that judge.

They said it was a different judge.

[AlCzervik]

48. still though they said he was on the panel of judges and works with the

presiding judge.

[The_Casual_Observer]

47. Let freedom reign! Freedom is hard work ,don't you know.

Tell it to the judge.

[sleipnir]

49. Ehhhh...not too impressed or surprised

I was pretty damn sure one of them would get a bullet in the head or just plain disappear.

[OETKB]

51. More human sacrifice to the neocon hierarhcy!

This is just another step downward in human progress. They just had to put Sadaam on trial in the middle of all this chaos. What did they think it was going to do? They set up both sides of this violent equation. Some choice. It is time for us to leave, say we made a tragic mistake, and hope we can reset the scene with a more rational scenerio. Right now it looks like the criminals are in charge on both sides of this conflict. We are being treated to the worst examples of world leadership in quite a long time. Where in the world are the good guys?

[Disturbed]

52. Salem Chalabi,Ahmed Chalabi's cousin has been

charged with murder. What ever happened with that charge?

[malaise]

54. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Wasn't the husband and mother of a judge murdered in the US yesterday?
Wasn't she a Clinton appointee?

Poor Robert Fisk - they're blaming him and The Independent - unbelievable.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=86446

[Rex]

56. I wonder if Saddams cancer will kill him before he gets a trial.

I bet he doesn't make it.

[lovuian]

61. theres alot of judges being killed???

and by whom???

[saigon68]

62. By some people

Using "self-help"

[Pinboy]

63. He is one of up to 20 judges on the tribunal, and first to be killed

Iraqi Judge on Saddam Case Killed (AP)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050302/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

Excerpt:

The tribunal official confirmed the slayings, but said the judge was not assassinated.

"He was not killed because he was working at the tribunal," the court official said. "It was something personal. I don't have details, but investigations are still going on."


Mahmoud's role on the tribunal was unclear, but the law establishing it called for up to 20 investigative judges and up to 20 prosecutors. It also said the tribunal would have one or more trial chambers, each with five judges.

[NYC]

64. I haven't compared all the details yet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1276733

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A judge on the special tribunal that will put Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and members of his former regime on trial was assassinated Tuesday in the Iraqi capital, according to an Iraqi police official and a media report.

Judge Barwez Mohammed Mahmoud and a relative were killed in northern Baghdad's Azamyiah district, the official told The Associated Press early Wednesday on condition of anonymity.

Al-Arabiya, the Dubai-based satellite TV news network, reported that the judge and his son died in the attack. The network said the men were killed near their house in northern Baghdad. The New York Times reported that the son, Aryan Mahmoud, was a lawyer with the tribunal.

The assassination came as thousands of mostly black-clad Iraqis protested outside a medical clinic in Hillah, a city 60 miles south of the capital where a suicide car bomber killed 125 people a day earlier.

Originally posted by:
Gentle Giant (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-01-05 11:17 PM
Original message

[Systematic Chaos]

66. Iraqi Judge on Saddam Case Killed

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A judge on the special tribunal that will put Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and members of his former regime on trial was assassinated Tuesday in the Iraqi capital, according to an Iraqi police official and a media report.

Judge Barwez Mohammed Mahmoud and a relative were killed in northern Baghdad's Azamyiah district, the official told The Associated Press early Wednesday on condition of anonymity.

Al-Arabiya, the Dubai-based satellite TV news network, reported that the judge and his son died in the attack. The network said the men were killed near their house in northern Baghdad. The New York Times reported that the son, Aryan Mahmoud, was a lawyer with the tribunal.

The assassination came as thousands of mostly black-clad Iraqis protested outside a medical clinic in Hillah, a city 60 miles south of the capital where a suicide car bomber killed 125 people a day earlier.

complete story here

[NYC]

67. So was this just a coincidence?

?

[americanstranger]

68. NYT says two of the tribunal were killed.

A judge and a lawyer with the special tribunal that will try Saddam Hussein and former members of his government were shot and killed Tuesday by gunmen outside their home here, Iraqi officials said.

<...>

Three men drove up and fired automatic weapons at the two men around 9 a.m. as they stood outside their family home in Adhamiya, a largely Sunni Arab neighborhood that has been a center of insurgent activity. Witnesses saw the attackers speeding away in a green Opel sedan without license plates, the officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/02/international/middleeast/02iraq.html?hp&ex=1109739600&en=f5e24fd5e6da632b&ei=5094&partner=homepage

-as

(Edited to correct link.)

[Don1]

69. Dammit

Well, it looks like those Syrian intelligence agents are up to their no good tricks again.

[Erika]

70. What does Syria have to do with it?

[illflem]

73. Don was being sarcastic

but in freeper circles it would be gospel

[Erika]

71. Ah, this is a civil war

Why are we still there? The insurgents are Iraqis.

[killbotfactory]

72. Well, we don't want an ICC, so...

Who's the next judge who wants to put a bullseye on his back? Any takers?