Some Iraqis see 'joke' in Bush rebuke of Syrians

[truthpusher]

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=54&u_sid=1360180

Some Iraqis see 'joke' in Bush rebuke of Syrians
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Published Tuesday
March 15, 2005
KNIGHT RIDDER NEWSPAPERS
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - Some Iraqis have found bitter irony in President Bush's insistence that Syria must withdraw its troops from Lebanon before Lebanese elections. Iraqis, they say, have lived with American tanks in their streets for two years and voted barely a month ago.

"He must have forgotten that his army is occupying Iraq," said Sa'ad Abdul Aziz, 21, an engineering student at Baghdad University. "What about the Republican Palace that they are using as a U.S. Embassy?"

(snip)

"For us it is a joke said by the U.S. president," said Ahmed Mushref, 25, an English literature student at Baghdad's Al-Mustansyria University. "I am not defending Syria, but this is the truth."

"What Bush said is an insult and a joke at the same time," said Wissam Hashim, an engineering professor at Al-Anbar University. "He is condemning himself."

"America should get out of Iraq immediately and without conditions, just like it is asking neighboring Syria to withdraw from the Lebanese Republic," said Sheikh Nasir Al-Saidi, imam of a Shiite mosque in Baghdad, writing Saturday in the newspaper Azzaman.

complete story: http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=54&u_sid=1360180

[tuvor]

1. Nothing better than seeing the devil mocked.

Nominated for Greatest.

[Erika]

2. I saw the same things

Bush tells Syrians to get out of Lebanon while we're occupying Iraq?

Was Iraq ever a danger to us other than in the minds who felt that excuse was necessary to take over their oil and country? We've paid a horrific price for it. See at www.icasualties.org Bush/Condi/Rummy never bring the Iraq war up in discussion. Our troops are just dead disposable meat for all they care.

[Rainscents]

4. How about all the Soldiers dies result of chemical exposure years later?

This is also not being told to American people. I heard on the radio last week, there were around 10,000 Soldiers died from the chemical exposure after they return home from Desert Storm War and we never heard about this.

[VelvetMonkeyWrench]

15. Died?

That's not credible. 10,000 with modest exposure to various nerve gasses would be a credible statement. That's probably close to the number claiming GWS that might be low level chem exposure related.

We did bomb a number of bunkers that were loaded with nerve gas and there was some residues wafting around for a short while.

I'm sure everyone had atropine injectors and such which were standard NBC issue since the cold war days, but that won't do much for an exposure level that wouldn't be lethal and just makes feel you feel kinda blah.

The modern battlefield can be a very nasty place indeed if the chem stuff is involved. The CS boot camp training was plenty enough to convince me even the mild crap was quite unpleasant. Dudes were freaking out after 30 seconds or so exposure to CS.

[TolstoyAndy]

3. It's a lack of training in Newthink

See, if the Iraqis were used to Newthink, like America is,
they wouldn't be able to see the irony.

Once we have the chance to process a new generation of Iraqi kids
thru schools with a US-run curriculum,
in a country with some 13 permanent military bases,
in a country flooded with commercial and political
propaganda, they too will understand the need, nay, the honor!
in not being able to see blatant contradictions when they come from Above.

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[rocktivity]

17. Damn, I miss EVERYTHING!

I wonder waht the record is for consecutive deleted posts?

:headbang:
rocknation

[Griffy]

24. I want to know what was said.. wish we could click and see!! nt

[imenja]

13. It's clearly the hight of hypocrisy

And what is so astounding is that no one in the US press comments on the obvious hypocrisy in Bush's comments on Syria.

[applegrove]

14. Instead they report on the Irony others are feeling. Very strange.

Actually kind of grandiose to not be able to report on anything 'within' your own nation in terms of feelings. Very soul robbing. But the biggest danger to any military operation is liberal guilt. So as long as the ***holes in Washington keep the wars going they can take all feeling in the USA repress it.

Teaching Americans how not to feel.

[rocktivity]

18. I must confess I missed the hypocrisy of it

I was too caught up in the ludicrousness of the fact that Syria had already announced they were pulling out days before.

:headbang:
rocknation

[underpants]

20. March 2, 2005 on the Today Show "Syria will withdraw from Lebanon"

That was from the 7 AM news update (I can't find the links I had that day). I was shocked and pleasantly surprised.

Then during that day

Bush Demands Syria Vacate Lebanon
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=544965

[itzamirakul]

16. I, too, thought this was ludicrous...

from the moment Rice began demanding that Syria get out of Lebanon. It took a couple of weeks before we began to hear that the Middle Easterners also felt that the BushCo stand on Syria's exit was ludicrous because of the US occupation of Iraq (and Afghanistan).

Doesn't the Bible say something about "pulling the mote out of your own eye first before you try to pull the mote out of your neighbor's eye."? For folks who claim to believe in the Bible so much, they sure don't follow it.

[Fuzz]

19. As Jon Stewart said on the Daily Show

and I'm paraphrasing:

I think this administration's foreign policy is to spread irony throughout the world.

[Chrisduhfur]

21. I found it amusing too...

Like they say though, might makes rights. Of course it is to be expected that any nation is going to want what is best for its own self. It should also be expected they will ask, demand or force(if able) such actions to be taken. I do not have any problems with that, and I understand that it is how the world works and will continue to work. However, I do believe that everyone has to be honest and recognize the double standards; not have the holier-than-thou attitude(which the US often has, but of course so do most other nations)

Ehnnn, just my thoughts on it.

[Democrats_win]

22. We're all being taken for a ride in the bushworld amusement park.

[tom_paine]

23. Even the Iraqis can recognize the Totalitarian Orwellian Lie

And yet, at least 33% of the Imperial Subjects of Amerika, cannot do the same.

Astonishing, but not really surprising, after having lived in the Amerikan Empire for it's 4.5 years of existance and having lived in Free Amerika for the previous 3 decades.

Ein Volk, Ein Empire, Ein Emperor!

:puke:

[Lisa]

"an insult and a joke at the same time" -- perfect description of Bush!

I'm sure this is exactly how he seems, to many Americans.

[Lisa]

25. "Iraqis are sick of foreign people ...

... coming in their country and trying to destabilize their country."
-- George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004