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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:47 AM
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U.S. soldiers reporting steady progress in one-time insurgent stronghold
U.S. soldiers reporting steady progress in one-time insurgent stronghold
Blood, sweat and tears pave way for new day in Tal Abtha
By Sandra Jontz, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Monday, May 16, 2005

TAL ABTHA, Iraq — After seven months in the bowels of the war in Iraq, there’s one thing that lifts Sgt. Erik Griffin’s spirits.

“The one thing that doesn’t keep me down in the dumps is that I see progress,” said the 34-year-old soldier with Battery C, 2nd Battalion, 8th Field Artillery, 1st Brigade, 25th Infantry Division.

For example, in the former insurgent stronghold of Tal Abtha, a town of 5,000 predominately Sunni Iraqis an hour’s drive from Mosul, there’s a semifunctioning police department. While the department has plenty of trained officers, there is only one vehicle, which limits their ability to patrol.

The cops still have not grasped the concept of foot patrols, and revert to old practices of lingering at the station to wait for trouble instead of seeking it out, U.S. soldiers say.

(more)

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=29117


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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:57 AM
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1. Idiots!
A semifunctioning police department with one vehicle is progress?

The goal of "the coalition" is to recruit Iraqi collaborators to fight against their fellow countrymen. In other words, civil war.

Delusional fuckwads!
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The White Tree Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:05 PM
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2. That does seem to be a pretty low standard
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Decay Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:07 PM
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3. "The cops still have not grasped the concept of foot patrols"?
With IEDs everywhere, I think I know why.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:24 PM
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7. Given the situation in Iraq
Lingering at the station sounds like the best idea. And you can argue all day about who's turn it is to drive ;)
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:16 PM
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4. gosh, how heartwarming..
a semifunctioning police department with only one vehicle is veiwed as progress. Ladies and gentlemen, here is the good stuff we hear is happening that the librul media refuses to write about.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:18 PM
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5. The Iraqi "security forces" are responsible for the executions
that have been uncovered. That's good old fashioned animal justice for you. Didn't take them long to include this bag of tricks.
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Decay Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:20 PM
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6. Those kids in the pic of your sig...
They are not pointing to that flag are they?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:54 PM
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16. Apparently the flag salute used to be the same one the Nazis
used, that is, until the Nazis starting using it.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:40 PM
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9. One word: "Negroponte". Two words: "Death Squads".
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:48 PM
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13. I heard that on NPR this morning.
They said some of the victims survived, but are critical, and that their wives have come forward to say that they had been picked up by the Iraqi security forces recently.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:53 PM
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15. Yes, how about that. They didn't count on any victims
living to tell the truth. I suspect they won't make it.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:38 PM
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8. One "insurgent stronghold" down, several thousand more to go.....
...and once the military reduces that strongpoint and moves on to the next, the "insurgents" will merely occupy the rubble and launch more attacks. The US military seems to be incapable of grasping the concept that they are being bled a little every day.

In another couple of years, we'll look around and suddenly realize that our casualties are well beyond the pace of casualties we suffered in Vietnam using the exact same tactics. We didn't exceed 2000 dead in Vietnam until nine years had passed...we're almost there in Iraq in a lot less time.

Oh, and by the way, does anyone know how many dead and wounded we've lost in Afghanistan, the "Forgotten War"?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:48 PM
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10. “The one thing that doesn’t keep me down in the dumps is that I see progre
progress = dead Iraqis
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:08 PM
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11. Yeah, steady progress through the 'bowels of war.'
And we all know what comes out of bowels: corporate-media news reports.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:42 PM
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12. There's that word "progress" again
Under the Bush administration, it means the exact opposite of what it used to mean.
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 03:14 PM
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14. If this is winning, I'd hate to see what losing is like..
Can we stand anymore 'catastrophic success'?
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