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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:23 PM
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Bush admits spreading democracy will take time
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Establishing new democratic regimes around the world will take time and will be marked by periods of difficulties and confusion, President George W. Bush warned.

"Almost every new democracy has gone through a period of challenge and confusion," Bush was to say at the International Republican Institute, according to a transcript of the speech distributed in advance by the White House.

Bush was to announce the creation of a new Active Response Corps made up of US government employees who can deploy quickly to crisis situations around the world.

"One of the lessons we learned from our experience in
Iraq is that, while military personnel can be rapidly deployed anywhere in the world, the same is not true of US government civilians," the president pointed out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050518/pl_afp/usbushpolitics_050518230456

Does anyone else wonder what exactly is the Active Response Corps?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:24 PM
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1. It'll take as long as it takes
to suck the ME dry of crude, and not a day sooner.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:26 PM
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2. reeks of Negroponte
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:28 PM
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3. Maybe he could practice a little democracy
here at home so he can get some experience before he tries it on some other country.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:28 PM
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4. Active Response Corps
Here's a site, PDF document, didn't read it, first I've heard of it


http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/37564.pdf



Keith’s Barbeque Central
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:43 PM
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11. Thanks for the link.
I will read it fully later. I had not heard of this either, the link is dated in October 2004.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:00 PM
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16. I just read it...and it's scary shit....
....lays out plans to "stabilize and reconstruct" "failed" states POST-CONFLICT!!! Further forsees "2-3 concurrent" efforts lasting 5-10 years...So NO-Iraq is not the end of their ambitions...Funny how many new government departments and offices we have that no ones ever heard of...I thought Repubs wanted to REDUCE the federal government...Read this stuff!!!
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:05 PM
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18. I intend to
But leaving for our DU Meet Up group shortly.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:29 PM
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:31 PM
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6. They quickly survey the country for Walmart and resort possibilities...
then they begin the manditory strip malling and bill boarding that is the foundation of democracy then they haul in the big guns...McDonalds, Starbucks, Pottary Barn, and TGI Fridays with a 12 hour "new democracy" happy hour.

You need to get those countries all America-ed up much faster than we did Iraq.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:35 PM
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:44 PM
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12. But Majority do not rule.
as long as there are two senators per state with one electoral vote each regardless of population. That is not majority rule.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:54 PM
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:08 PM
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19. But the senate majority
does not represent the majority of the American people.

Yes I would support one man one vote nation wide.

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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:40 PM
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8. Especially when he supports anti-democratic regimes....
Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, all the right-wing parties in Latin America....need I go on??
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:49 PM
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:42 PM
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9. Yeah, there are still 1,000,000,000,000 more people he needs to MURDER
Fuch Bush and the plastic horse he plays with at night.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:43 PM
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10. Are you telling the truth this time, George?
Or is this yet another example of your lying.

The only intelligence problem you have, George, is in the space between your ears!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:50 PM
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14. There is only two things he's spreading:
1. You can find this one in a toilet, assuming the previous user didn't flush it.

2. Death.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:04 PM
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17. Yep. It'll take at least...
...until January 20, 2009.

;-)

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:10 PM
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20. He's only fooling the fools
What a dipshit.

Democracy, or else. Sort of like the Socratic method with a sledge hammer. Yeah, it works. But you lose half your students. And usually the best ones.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:18 PM
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21. Bush is the Karl Marx of fascism -
In the theory of Bushmunism, first a revolutionary dictatorship of the corporations must be established in a democratic country before democracy can come into being.

Unfortunately, in Bushmunism, the revolutionary dictatorship of the corporations is expected to last at least 10,000 years before it evolves into democracy.

The former US democracy is right now in the early stages of Bush's "revolutionary dictatorship of the corporations".
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:47 PM
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22. I wonder when democracy will reach the United States?? I
can't wait for that! Just think...fair elections, free speech...it will be great!

Go Shrub!

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:49 PM
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23. That definitely sounds like a threat.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:03 PM
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24. Especially when it only occured to neocons in 1992! That slows it
down quite a bit don't it!

The rest of us Liberals were there a long time ago.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:11 PM
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25. Yeah, it took us a few hundred years before women and blacks could vote...
why, we have all the time in the world! :sarcasm:
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:11 PM
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26. Bush Proposes Special Corps to Aid New Democracies
Bush Proposes Corps to Aid New Democracies

Thursday May 19, 2005 1:46 AM

By DEB RIECHMANN

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush, seeking to put muscle behind a promise to support young democracies, said Wednesday the administration is creating a special corps of federal workers that will deploy quickly to help foreign governments in crisis.

Citing the lengthy and difficult task of setting up the U.S.-run occupation government in Iraq after Saddam Hussein's ouster, Bush is proposing $100 million next year for a new conflict response fund and $24 million for a new Office of Reconstruction and Stabilization in the State Department. That office will coordinate U.S. government efforts to support emerging democracies, with the new Active Response Corps of foreign and civil service officers as a crucial tool, Bush said.

<snip>

``We are seeing the rise of a new generation whose hearts burn for freedom - and they will have it,'' Bush said.

<snip>

The administration has spent $4.6 billion over more than four years supporting democratic change and will increasingly focus future funding on programs to help new democracies after elections are over. Bush also promised that military forces will be rebalanced with an eye toward making them more effective in helping societies move from war and despotism to freedom and democracy, in part by adding military police and civil affairs specialists.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5015734,00.html
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:11 PM
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27. Unreal.
More waste and jobs for his wealthy accomplices.
Why not keep that money at home--our democracy is in worse shape than anyone elses in the worlds.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:11 PM
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28. I got an idea! We could call it the Peace Corps!
Edited on Wed May-18-05 08:12 PM by librechik
dumbass wants to erase everthing Democrats invented and reclaim the idea for himself (except he doesn't actually DO anything, except tear things down.) Another unfunded mandate to make himself Look Good while accomplishing nothing
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:16 PM
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29. What will its focus be?
1. Peace Corps, Habitat for Humanity, Physicians W/out Borders - Not this President.


2. Military Civil Affairs, Engineers - Maybe.


3. Infantry, Artillery, Armored, Military Police, Combat Engineers, Military Intelligence - Yeah. Just like Iraq - but with a few more "Civil Affairs" and "Engineers" assets to give them a veneer or patina of rebuilders. Yeah. That's it - like the French Foreign Legion -shades of DienBienPhu and Algiers.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:53 PM
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31. Not to mention
this corp of civil engineers and assorted bureaucrats will be as welcome in these fledgeling democracies as we are in Iraq. And that's going really uhm, awful.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:17 PM
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30. Non-Story... Move Along (nt)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:05 PM
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32. Fuck bush and his damn lies..
Edited on Wed May-18-05 09:05 PM by zidzi
his ilk is stripping the American People of their Democracy..or haven't they caught on to that yet?

And I don't mean DUers and the ones who know cnn is a propoganda machine!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:07 PM
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33. Hasn't taken him very long to get rid of it over here though.
He's accomplished dismantling Democracy in record time.
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aion Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:08 PM
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34. The real question is...does their Flag patch insignia have velcro backing?
?
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bennywhale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:13 PM
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35. Hang on. So what he's saying is the military can be deployed on mass to
a country quicker than a couple of fucking diplomats?

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary.

Bombing stuff is easy its the talking that we find difficult. Thats the gist of this shit.
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