Four 48th soldiers killed in bomb attack (Iraq #1782-1785)

[alcibiades_mystery]

http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/680/public/news648509.html

CAMP STRIKER, Iraq – Four soldiers were killed Sunday by a roadside bomb in the deadliest attack on the 48th Brigade Combat Team since its mobilization. A fifth soldier was injured in the blast and, as of Monday morning, was being treated at a military hospital in Baghdad.

The names and units of the soldiers are being withheld while the affected families are notified and to give those families time to grieve without exposure to the media, according to Army policy.

“The brigade is saddened by this tragedy,” said brigade spokeswoman 2nd Lt. Selena Owens. “Our thoughts and prayers go out to the soldiers’ families.” At about 7:30 p.m. Sunday, brigade infantry units were conducting a regular patrol on Route Aeros, when the roadside bomb exploded onto a Humvee truck in the convoy. The soldiers were taken to 86th Combat Support Hospital, where they were pronounced dead, Owens said.

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NOTE: These numbers have not yet been added to the icasualties count, as they seem to be waiting for DoD confirmation. That makes it 1785, and 40 so far this month.

[meganmonkey]

1. Oh, man

I was wondering when they would announce those HUmvee deaths.

Rest in Peace soldiers.

:cry:

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. Yeah, I saw the Humvee story yesterday too

This is almost definitely it.

[sabra]

3. Lately it seems that there is at least one US fatality a each day!

[Minstrel Boy]

6. 1.4 deaths per day over the last 14 days

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html

[bluestateguy]

4. Despicable

Just proves our point all along.

We told you so.

Had we been listened to 2 years ago these men would still be alive.

[brentspeak]

5. If I'm not mistaken

the majority of US fatalities haven't even occurred during actual combat operations. Our troops are basically being assassinated before they even get a chance to raise their rifles.

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. Aren't these deaths considered "insignificant" by the military

and by freepers? Freepers are very sensitive to these reports and consider discussion of them to be political and anti-chimp.

[Ripley]

8. Where's Gallup Now?

from the article: “The good citizens of Iraq do not have to live in fear. They have a choice.”

I recently read in a paper that the majority of Iraqis want the American troops to stay. Remember when Gallup was there polling (many months ago)? Not that I trust Gallup, but I'd really like to see a door to door poll of Iraqi citizens about whether or not the US should go.

RIP.

[LynnTheDem]

13. Majority of Iraqis want us the hell out.

March-April 2004: 57 percent, "leave immediately"; 36 percent, "stay longer". (Gallup)

June 2004: 41 percent, "immediate withdrawal"; 45 percent, withdrawal after election of a permanent government; 10 percent, 2 years or longer. (Independent Institute for Administration and Civil Society/CPA).

June 2004: 30 percent desire immediate withdrawal, 51 percent want withdrawal after a government is elected, 13 percent said that Coalition forces should remain until stability was achieved. (Iraq Centre for Research & Strategic Studies)

June 2004: 53 percent say leave now or "within a few months" or "until an Interim Government is in place" or "in six months to a year"; 33.5 percent allow "more than one year" or "until permanent government is in place"; 13.6 percent, even longer if necessary. (Oxford Research International)

January 2005: 82 percent of Sunni Arabs and 69 percent of Shiites favor US withdrawal either immediately or after an elected government is in place. (Zogby)

February 2004: 56.3 percent of Iraqis somewhat or strongly oppose the presence of Coalition forces in Iraq. "Strongly oppose" versus "strongly support" is 2.5-to-1. (Oxford Research International)

March-April 2004: 58 percent say US forces have behaved very or fairly badly; 34 percent say US forces have behaved very or fairly well. The ratio between those saying "very bad" and those saying "very well": 3-to-1. (Gallup/CNN/USA Today)

March-April 2004: 30 percent say that attacks on US forces were somewhat or completely justified; another 22 percent said they were sometimes justified. (Gallup/CNN/USA Today)

May 2004: 87 percent express little or no confidence in US coalition forces; 92 percent view coalition forces as occupiers, rather than liberators or peace keepers. (Independent Institute for Administration and Civil Society/CPA)

June 2004: 67 percent of Iraqis strongly or somewhat oppose the presence of Coalition troops; 30 percent support. (Iraq Centre for Research & Strategic Studies)

June 2004: 58 percent of Iraqis somewhat or strongly oppose the presence of Coalition forces in Iraq. Strongly oppose versus strongly support is 3-to-1. (Oxford Research International)

June 2004: 70 percent say Coalition troops are an occupying or exploiting force; 30 percent say a liberating or peacekeeping force. (Oxford Research International)

June 2004: Majority of Iraqis say invasion was wrong;
Invasion of Iraq was absolutely right say 13.2 percent; somewhat right, 27.6 percent; somewhat wrong, 25.7 percent; absolutely wrong, 33.5 percent. (Oxford Research International)

March-April 2004: 46 percent say the US invasion has done more harm than good; 33 percent say more good. (Gallup)

March-April 2004: 42 percent say Iraq is better off today than before the invasion, 39 percent say worse, 17 percent say the same. (Gallup)

August 2004: 46 percent of Iraqis say their situation has improved since the fall of Hussein, 31 percent say it has grown worse, and 21 percent say it is unchanged. (International Republican Institute)

57% said the coalition should "leave immediately"...
Among respondents in Shi'ite and Sunni Arab areas-- that is, leaving out Kurdish respondents--the numbers favoring an immediate pullout were even higher: 61% to 30% among Shi'ites and 65% to 27% among Sunnis.

In Baghdad, where U.S. forces are concentrated, the numbers were highest of all: 75% favored an immediate pullout, with only 21% opposed.
http://baltimorechronicle.com/060304Media.html

Iraq Center for Research and Strategic Studies, which is partly funded by the State Department and has coordinated its work with the Coalition Provisional Authority, more than half of all Iraqis-- including the Kurds-- want an immediate withdrawal of US forces...
http://baltimorechronicle.com/060304Media.html

The first survey of Iraqis sponsored by the U.S. Coalition Provisional Authority after the Abu Ghraib prison scandal shows that most say they would feel safer if Coalition forces left immediately, without even waiting for elections scheduled for next year.

55% of Iraqis say they would feel safer if Coalition forces departed right away.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5217874/site/newsweek /

2005:
Newsweek reports that "Every major poll shows an ever-larger majority of Iraqis want the Americans to leave."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6857145/site/newsweek /


Referances:

Press Release, Survey Finds Deep Divisions in Iraq; Sunni Arabs Overwhelmingly Reject Sunday Elections; Majority of Sunnis, Shiites Favor U.S. Withdrawal, New Abu Dhabi TV - Zogby Poll Reveals (Utica, NY: Zogby International, 28 January 2005), available at: http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=957

International Republican Institute polls: Survey of Iraqi Public Opinion, September 24 - October 4, 2004 (Washington DC: International Republican Institute, October 2004), available at: http://www.iri.org/pub.asp?id=7676767887 ;Survey of Iraqi Public Opinion, July 24 - August 2, 2004 (Washington DC: International Republican Institute, August 2004), available at: http://www.iri.org/pub.asp?id=7676767885

Oxford Research International polls: National Survey of Iraq, February 2004 (Oxford, UK: Oxford Research International); National Survey of Iraq, June 2004 (Oxford, UK: Oxford Research International); both available at: http://www.oxfordresearch.com/publications.html

Independent Institute for Administration and Civil Society/CPA poll: Public Opinion in Iraq: First Poll Following Abu Ghraib Revelations 14-23 May 2004 (Baghdad: CPA, May 2004), available at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5217741/site/newsweek /

Gallup poll conducted with USA Today and CNN: Cesar G. Soriano and Steven Komarow, "Poll: Iraqis out of patience," USA Today, 28 April 2004; "Key findings: Nationwide survey of 3,500 Iraqis," USA Today, 28 April 2004, available at: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-04-28-gall... . Also see: Richard Burkholder, Gallup Poll of Iraq: Liberated, Occupied, or in Limbo? (Princeton, NJ: Gallop Organization, 28 April 2004).

Juan Cole, "Spinning Iraqi Opinion at Taxpayer Expense," Antiwar.com, 25 October 2004, available at: http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3843

Robin Wright, "Religious Leaders Ahead in Iraq Poll; U.S.-Supported Government Is Losing Ground, Washington Post, 22 October 2004, p. 1;

Mark Turner, "80% of Iraqis want coalition troops out," Financial Times, 7 July 2004;

Michael Hirsh, "Grim Numbers," Newsweek, 16 June 2004;

John Lemke, "Poll: Security, unemployment major problems, UPI, 25 May 2004.

"Opinion Polls in Iraq," Iraqanalysis.org, http://www.iraqanalysis.org/info/55

Iraq Index: Tracking Reconstruction and Security in Post-Saddam Iraq (Washington DC: Brookings Institution), section on public opinion polls; available at: http://www.brookings.edu/iraqindex

Frederick Barton and Bathsheba Crocker, project directors, Progress or Peril? Measuring Iraq's Reconstruction (Washington DC: CSIS, September 2004), available at: http://www.csis.org/features/0410_progressperil.pdf

[Ripley]

14. Thanks so much Lynn!

You are a treasure trove of info. With that kind of information, how the hell do the newspapers get away with outright lying?! Don't answer that, I know. :(

[saigon68]

9. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

As he PEERED FROM THE CARRIAGE his mommy was pushing.

[BeHereNow]

12. Sounds like a Mopaul visual job-

Perfect image saigon68.
BHN

[catmandu57]

10. Christ, when I looked this morning

icasualties had it at 1776, I check back in now it's 1782, and you're telling me that there are other uncounted dead? Fuck,Fuck,Fuck. Godamn all these bastards, fuck them eternally, every fucking one of them in power and every motherfucker that helped put them there.

[deadparrot]

11. RIP.

...

Wasn't it 1775 just yesterday?

[daleo]

15. It was a quick vault past 1776

Obviously a highly symbolic number. The military may have managed the information release to avoid that number being talked about.

[deadparrot]

16. Yep.

A heartbreaking milestone. :cry:

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. My Apologies. This is actually # 1779-1782

icasualties posted the total number before they updated the period details. I didn't see this listed in the period details, so I assumed it wasn't in the total numbers. The period details for July has since been updated for this incident, and the numnber is 37 for the month, and 1782 total.

Apologies for any confusion.

[dhinojosa]

18. GAH! FUCK! FUCK FUCK! FUCK!

No fucking WMDs there, what are we doing there!?!?!?
FUCK!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[catmandu57]

19. Don"t you know. We're bringing freedom and democracy

and proving that g w* has a bigger one than poppy.

[stanwyck]

20. Well, this is what we're doing there

forming another Islamic Republic which will deny basic rights to women and torture or kill any dissidents. Read their new constitution. All rights are secondary to religious law. We've taken an oppresive regime and made it...worse. Plus, we've lost American lives.
That's what we're doing.
Mission Accomplished.