LAT/AP: Inaccurate Info (Plame working for WINPAC) May Help CIA Leak Probe

[DeepModem Mom]

Inaccurate Info May Help CIA Leak Probe
By JOHN SOLOMON and PETE YOST, Associated Press Writers


WASHINGTON -- Information attributed to Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff in New York Times reporter Judith Miller's interview notes is incorrect, offering prosecutors a potential lead to tracking the bad information to its original source.

Miller disclosed this weekend that her notes of a conversation she had with I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby on July 8, 2003 stated Cheney's top aide told her that the wife of Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson worked for the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms Control (WINPAC) unit.

Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, never worked for WINPAC, an analysis unit in the overt side of the CIA, and instead worked in a position in the CIA's secret side, known as the directorate of operations, according to three people familiar with her work for the spy agency.

The three all spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the current secrecy requirements of Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury investigation into the leak of Plame's identity in 2003 to the media....

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Whether it came from Libby or Miller's notes, former federal prosecutors and investigators said the incorrect information provides a significant lead for Fitzgerald and FBI agents to follow. It could suggest Libby thought Plame was not an undercover spy, and therefore couldn't have knowingly revealed her occupation, or that he got his information from uninformed sources, they said....


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wire/ats-ap_top13oct17,0,7854310.story

[K8-EEE]

1. but...but...they only leaked this to "correct" Joe Wilson's account!

So...how could what they say be incorrect?

[Toucano]

2. This is their cover story.

Since Joe and Valerie Wilson's own neighbors didn't know where she worked and Libby drew the connection to her covert identity - Valerie Plame - he knew.

Putting in the WINPAC stuff was like leaving a trail of breadcrumbs to provide plausible denial.

I don't buy it. He didn't out Valerie Wilson. He outed Valerie Plame with full knowledge of the crime and potential consequences all for political gain.

[BootinUp]

5. They aren't that smart

The CIA told Cheney and Libby that was where she worked.

[Boo Boo]

16. My thoughts too...

and they are that smart.

[shraby]

3. Perjury count #2 for Judy.....that I know of.

[hang a left]

4. Deep Modem Mom,

I did not see your post please forgive me. I will alert and asked them to put my post into yours. Sorry.

[DeepModem Mom]

17. No problem at all! We posted at almost the same time --

it happens quite frequently, to all of us.

:)

[Gloria]

24. Yeah, I posted it too!

eom

[Boo Boo]

6. Maybe Libby said WINPAC to cover his own ass. /nt

[hang a left]

7. Inaccurate Info May Help CIA Leak Probe

Inaccurate Info May Help CIA Leak Probe


Tuesday October 18, 2005 12:01 AM

AP Photo WX18

By JOHN SOLOMON and PETE YOST

Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) - Information attributed to Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff in New York Times reporter Judith Miller's interview notes is incorrect, offering prosecutors a potential lead to tracking the bad information to its original source.

Miller disclosed this weekend that her notes of a conversation she had with I. Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby on July 8, 2003 stated Cheney's top aide told her that the wife of Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson worked for the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms Control (WINPAC) unit.

Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, never worked for WINPAC, an analysis unit in the overt side of the CIA, and instead worked in a position in the CIA's secret side, known as the directorate of operations, according to three people familiar with her work for the spy agency.

The three all spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the current secrecy requirements of Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury investigation into the leak of Plame's identity in 2003 to the media.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5350688,00.html

[are_we_united_yet]

8. And now for our Feature Presentation....

:popcorn:

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Or more likely Judy lied again

and is trying to protect her buddy Scooter by pretending they all thought Plame/Flame was just a regular person. Yeah, sure. That's the ticket.

[stepnw1f]

10. Same Authors for Both LA Times and Guardian

Anyway... so this will possible get Libby off the hook?

[punpirate]

11. And, this gets Libby off the hook...

... on violating the Intelligence Identity Protection Act. If he said she was not clandestine, and that's what he believed, he skates on that charge, because he didn't willfully and knowingly expose her.

Hope someone checks Miller's other notebooks to see if they're numbered sequentially, and see if this one fits in the time and number sequence....

[Up2Late]

20. They should dust her "newly found" notebook for "Scooter's" fingerprints

or better yet, send it to the lab for handwriting analysis and/or Carbon Dating. This "newly found" notebook story is sounding less and less credible to me.

Time to put on your tin hats folks, but this is starting to stink, I bet the "newly found" notebook is something that "Scooter" or KKKarl just manufactured. :tinfoilhat:

[punpirate]

26. If it was, it would have to have been...

... with her assistance. Ever seen a reporter's note pad? Highly individualistic in ways beyond just handwriting. I doubt that's something that someone else could recreate on short notice.

Complete, wild speculation here... but she did have eighty-five days to jot things down. :shrug:

[hang a left]

12. I think this is a purposeful leak....

they are trying to trap someone or get someone to make a move. How would Libby have access to information about Plame that was false. Maybe someone set someone up????

[truthisfreedom]

13. my first impression too.

either Fitz is moving things along or the leak is a warning for anyone left testifying.

[jefferson_dem]

15. my thoughts exactly. ALL we hear is strategically leaked by the

Rover/Fibby camp. Not buying any of it. Fitz has his side locked down.

[The Night Owl]

14. Clearly, the fix is in... Hopefully Fitzgerald is wise to it.

[Gloria]

Inaccurate Info (WINPAC) May Help CIA Leak Probe--AP

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051017/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_leak_investigation

Inaccurate Info May Help CIA Leak Probe

By JOHN SOLOMON and PETE YOST, Associated Press Writers 1 hour, 47 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Information attributed to Vice President
Dick Cheney's chief of staff in New York Times reporter Judith Miller's interview notes is incorrect, offering prosecutors a potential lead to tracking the bad information to its original source.

Miller disclosed this weekend that her notes of a conversation she had with I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby on July 8, 2003 stated Cheney's top aide told her that the wife of Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson worked for the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms Control (WINPAC) unit.

Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, never worked for WINPAC, an analysis unit in the overt side of the CIA, and instead worked in a position in the CIA's secret side, known as the directorate of operations, according to three people familiar with her work for the spy agency.

The three all spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the current secrecy requirements of Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury investigation into the leak of Plame's identity in 2003 to the media.

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Whether it came from Libby or Miller's notes, former federal prosecutors and investigators said the incorrect information provides a significant lead for Fitzgerald and FBI agents to follow. It could suggest Libby thought Plame was not an undercover spy, and therefore couldn't have knowingly revealed her occupation, or that he got his information from uninformed sources, they said.



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[spotbird]

18. That's what they hope the gj will think

Maybe it will, the aspens changed.

[Gloria]

21. Long thread on this at KOS--thought to be disinformation which

was released earlier by GOPUSA, talking points conduit...


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/17/201052/28

[TomClash]

19. This helps Libby

Now he can say, "I didn't out her knowingly - I thought she worked at WINPAC in a non-clandestine position."

[usregimechange]

30. Except he fitz may have his testimony saying who knows what

[thinkingwoman]

22. as I posted on the twin thread...pay no attention

to pre-indictment spin.

This is all part of the show.

Hey, I'm almost out of... :popcorn:

[robbedvoter]

23. Pete Yost - AP's BS master

During the primaries he had the "Clark is involved in Waco" hysterical title (by paragraph 5 he was admitting that there is no connection - but it was carefully burried). A hack!

[kikiek]

25. From what I understand the problems for Rove and Scooter are in

their testimony. Perjury and Obstruction of Justice. The talk has always been that outing her as CIA was difficult to prove. I am looking forward to their indictments.

[hang a left]

27. Key CIA leak detail disputed as announcement nears

Key CIA leak detail disputed as announcement nears
Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:52 PM ET167

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff may have given New York Times reporter Judith Miller inaccurate information about where the wife of Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson worked at the CIA, a former intelligence official said on Monday.

The possible discrepancy comes amid signs the federal prosecutor investigating who leaked the identity of Wilson's wife, covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, will announce whether he will bring charges in the case as early as Wednesday, people close to the case said.

Wilson, a former diplomat, says White House officials outed his wife, damaging her ability to work undercover, to discredit him for accusing the Bush administration of twisting intelligence to justify the Iraq war in a New York Times opinion piece on July 6, 2003.

According to Miller's account of a July 8, 2003, meeting with Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis Libby, she wrote in her notes that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms Control, or Winpac, unit, which tracks the spread of unconventional arms.

http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2005-10-18T025247Z_01_FOR775038_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-LEAK.xml

[janx]

28. I'm so glad Patrick Fitzgerald is the prosecutor in this case.

There's nepotism worthy of a MOB going on here. ;-) The jury will figure it out.

[usregimechange]

29. kick

[populistdriven]

31. Key CIA leak detail disputed as announcement nears

Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:52 PM ET164

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff may have given New York Times reporter Judith Miller inaccurate information about where the wife of Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson worked at the CIA, a former intelligence official said on Monday.

The possible discrepancy comes amid signs the federal prosecutor investigating who leaked the identity of Wilson's wife, covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, will announce whether he will bring charges in the case as early as Wednesday, people close to the case said.

Wilson, a former diplomat, says White House officials outed his wife, damaging her ability to work undercover, to discredit him for accusing the Bush administration of twisting intelligence to justify the Iraq war in a New York Times opinion piece on July 6, 2003.

According to Miller's account of a July 8, 2003, meeting with Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis Libby, she wrote in her notes that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms Control, or Winpac, unit, which tracks the spread of unconventional arms.

A former intelligence official said Plame did not work at Winpac but for the CIA's clandestine service, known as the directorate of operations. The former official, who is familiar with Plame's activities at the CIA, spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter....snip

http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2005-10-18T025247Z_01_FOR775038_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-LEAK.xml

[tuvor]

32. Key CIA leak detail disputed as announcement nears

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff may have given New York Times reporter Judith Miller inaccurate information about where the wife of Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson worked at the CIA, a former intelligence official said on Monday.

The possible discrepancy comes amid signs the federal prosecutor investigating who leaked the identity of Wilson's wife, covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, will announce whether he will bring charges as early as Wednesday, people close to the case said.

<snip>

According to Miller's account of a meeting with Libby on July 8, she wrote in her notes that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Non-Proliferation, and Arms Control, or Winpac, unit, which tracks unconventional arms.

A former intelligence official said Plame did not work at Winpac but for the CIA's clandestine service. The former official, who is familiar with Plame's CIA activities, spoke on condition of anonymity because of the matter's sensitivity.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-10-18T044335Z_01_SIB471053_RTRUKOC_0_UK-BUSH-LEAK.xml&archived=False

[wheresthemind]

33. Wednesday?!

Tommrow? Is it possiable? I am SO fucking excited!

[NYC Liberal]

34. MERRY FITZMAS!

:toast::party::toast::party::toast::party:

[The Witch]

35. This is GIGANTIC.

I smell a bolton.