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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:15 PM
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Zarqawi ‘sleeps in suicide belt’
IRAQ’S most wanted man, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, goes to sleep every night wearing a suicide belt packed with explosives, according to a leading insurgent who met him two weeks ago.

“He never takes it off,” said Sheikh Abu Omar al-Ansari, leader of a Sunni resistance group called Jeish al-Taiifa al-Mansoura (Army of the Victorious Sect). “He told me: ‘I would rather blow myself up and die as a martyr — and kill a few Americans along the way — than be arrested and humiliated by them’.”

His account, passed to The Sunday Times by a reliable intermediary, is the first description of Zarqawi in Iraq since Washington slapped a $25m bounty on his head, the same as the reward for the killing or capture of Osama Bin Laden.

The sheikh also claimed one of the most widely circulated pieces of supposed western intelligence about Zarqawi — that he sought treatment in Iraq after losing a leg in a US missile strike on Al-Qaeda militants — is false. Ansari confirmed that he has both his legs and “walks with confidence and balance”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2003822,00.html
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:18 PM
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1. Hhhhmmmmm . . . so he must have *pleasant* dreams? . . . n/t
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:19 PM
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2. I hope he has a nightmare
and detonates himself.:nuke:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:05 AM
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26.  yep, me too
BOOM!

byebye, zarqawi
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:19 PM
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3. I guess he doesn't want to end up on the cover of the NY Post...
...in his skivvies. Can't say I blame him...
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:42 PM
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10. Wow
I think that is more demeaning than ANY of the pictures that came out of Abu Graib. ALmost makes you feel sorry for him....almost.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:28 PM
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4. You never can tell when he might decide to kill himself again, seeing
he's been killed a couple of other times already, according to reports we've been given.

I think the Bush administration has stories like this released simply to remind us they can control all aspects of our information, and we can't stop them.

That was already proven during the Reagan administration with that little tumor, Cuban "exile" Otto Reich working feverishly in the Office of Public Diplomacy, spinning lies, creating stories to plant in newspapers, writing bogus letters to the editors from people in all walks of life, including high ranking military officers, planting stories that various members of our press were chasing tail, straight and gay, in Nicaragua, etc. He's still around, somewhere, after Bush slipped him into the State Department in a recess appointment, although he had gotten in steep trouble with Congress in the 1980's for his illegal propaganda tactics.

Buncha creeps. I believe very little I read concerning their faux "enemies."
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shugh514 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:42 PM
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11. Agreed
This sounds like disinformation.

The Legend of Zarqawi - to be continued
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Clutch Cargo Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:30 PM
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5. Good!!
I hope he goes to bed and sets his belt to wake him up at 6:00 am next morning!!!!
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:32 PM
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6. I doubt it.
Explosives are jumpy things. Strapped to a warm body in the desert? You'd have to be mad.

But then he probably is mad.
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Clutch Cargo Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:37 PM
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9. He is mad!
He's gonna explode, blow his dick off and then enter the next world for his 72 virgins as a eunich. What a short-sighted dumbass!
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:47 PM
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13. What's worse
There are no 72 virgins waiting for him.

For me. it's even funnier to think of him blowing himself up, ending up in hell (I'm sure there is a muslim hell, just not well versed in its intricacies), finding out he was WAAAAAAAAAY wrong about everything he did and told others to do then being punished for all eternity because he was a dumbass and killed himself.

Just my take, the guy is a lunatic.
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Clutch Cargo Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:59 PM
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15. Correct. A lunactic and a coward. Dangerous combo. n/t
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:11 PM
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17. yeah, what a coward...
unlike the 101st keyboard comandos
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:08 PM
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22. er, why? You'd expect a brave lunatic to be a bit more dangerous.
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 11:09 PM by thebigidea
I suppose I understand in theory the need to dehumanize our enemies to make it easier to kill them, hence the barbarian/coward stuff - but it just doesn't make much sense. Coward? How so, exactly?

Not that I buy anything about this story. Some self proclaimed "sheikh" through a "reliable intermediary." Uh huh. What makes him reliable, again?
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Clutch Cargo Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:33 AM
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40. I'll take a dead lunactic over a brave or cowardly one anyday.n/t
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Clutch Cargo Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:42 AM
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42. Do you feel he is brave?
If so, why?

I feel that people who are willing to commit suicide are cowards. If they are also knowingly willing to risk the indisriminate killing of innocent people, as every suicide bomber to date has done, that make them even more cowardly.

What's your take?
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:50 PM
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43. What do you think of this...
It actually takes a great deal of courage to kill yourself for what you believe in, especially when you could be dead wrong (as any of us could be, no pun intended).

However, I think it takes MORE courage to stand up before the world (if captured), proclaim your beliefs and your innocence in the face of those beliefs, then either spend the rest of your life in prison OR go to the noose and die at someone else's hands proclaiming your message.

My faith teaches suicide, for any purpose, is wrong. But, knowingly going to your own death at someone else's hands is not suicide, it's martyrdom, and martyrdom requires true courage. These people, from the leaders to the daily suicide bombers, would rather take their own lives in self righteousness than face the suffering of true martyrdom.

That makes them cowards.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:35 PM
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7. 72 virgins chastity belt.
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:08 PM
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16. LOL!!!!
However, an Arabic speaker told me that "72" functions like "100" in english. So if I say "I told you a hundred times" I don't really mean exactly "100" - I mean "too many times to count". It is the same with the 72 virgins - it means "too many virgins to count!!!"

Still, I hope that he accidentally presses the button.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:36 PM
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8. That is certainly not surprising.
Gives me chills.


This part reminds me of the townhall with Murtha and Moran:

'"Zarqawi is not in the position he used to be before — he seems to have lost the hospitality that he enjoyed in the past in Iraq," said Dr Nimrod Raphaeli, a specialist at the Middle East Media Research Institute in Washington. "He is trying to find a new base and new links with other groups."

Moran gave the best explanation I've heard for what would happen if we left Iraq. People worry that AQ will take over. They won't. Instead of fighting the US military, the Iraqi's - insurgents and government or militia forces - will get ride of AQ. The insurgents are already trying to - like it mentions in the article - lost the hospitality .

Iraq doesn't like foreigners - Americans or Al Queda. They will fight amongst themselves, as the must, to figure out the future of their country BUT neither the insurgents (native Iraqi Sunnis primarily) nor the Kurds, Shiites or Sunnis want any foreigners telling them what the hell to do.

Their attention is focused on us. If we left, they would focus on the AQ and dealing each other.

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:46 PM
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12. "As seen on TV!"
"A unique and exciting way to lose weight!"
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 08:48 PM
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14. lots of it, really fast (nt)
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:55 AM
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24. Maybe he'll confuse his suicide belt with his sauna belt someday...
http://www.asseenontv.com.nyud.net:8090/prod-pages/images/SaunaBelt-InUse.jpg

(Just a plug for my current favorite infomercial...:))
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:26 PM
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18. He bad bad mean man!!!
Hey, Bush needs a reason to stay in iraq and "Zarqawi" is their reason... for now.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:28 PM
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19. What about when he takes a shower?
We need to know.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:24 AM
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29. Caves don't have showers anyway.
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pdurod1 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:19 PM
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20. Stupid Fuck
Anyone born on this world that has to resort to is...
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:42 PM
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21. I'd feel better if he was sleeping with the fishes.
Add another nutcase terrorist to the list that Junior can't catch.

Oh and we now know he walks with "confidence and balance" on two legs. Too bad they didn't give us his book recommendations.

:eyes:
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:27 PM
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23. Gee, what a shame it would be
If he got out of bed one morning, stepped on the carpet and got the mother of all static electricity shocks.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:01 AM
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25. One leg and a suicide belt?
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 02:02 AM by lizzy
And Osama on kidney dialysis. It's a wonder we can't catch anyone.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:18 AM
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27. Can we get Bush to do that? n/t
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:23 AM
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28. I am pretty sure- NO.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:39 AM
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30. LOL, reliable intermediary.. with no name.. but he was wearing a turban
right?

*fails to swallow hook, line and sinker...*
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:44 AM
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31. This is the same guy who supposedly only has one leg....
So said "Colon" Powell to the UN.

His receiving "medical care" buy having his leg amputated, supposedly in Baghdad, was suppose to be one of our many pieces of "evidence" that Saddam was in cahoots with terrorists.

My, but he hops around awfully well!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:50 AM
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32. Must be difficult to hop around with a suicide belt and one leg.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:55 AM
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33. Boogeymen have super powers....
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:59 AM
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34. I don't know what is stranger-
a one legged man in a suicide belt, or a man dragging a kidney dialysis machine behind him.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:03 AM
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35. With Osama's $$$, I imagine his cave is very plush!
MTV could feature it on Cribs, and he still wouldn't be captured.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:15 AM
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36. For 25 millions, I am sure MTV viewers would turn him in.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 07:51 AM
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37. And he sleeps in an incubator surrounded by a dozen newborn infants...
:eyes:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:13 AM
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38. Pretty entertaining article.
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 08:14 AM by pinniped
It will be the first in my official al-Zarqawi news collection folder.

So, the US intel about a one-legged al-Zarqawi was all wrong?

Maybe all their supposed intel about al-Zarqawi is all made up.

--He appeared to have recovered from chest and shoulder injuries he suffered in a separate US airstrike last year.--

No shit, if he can regenerate like some reptiles, a few bullets holes are just flesh wounds.

--“He is known by America and the world as the prince of beheadings, the murdering sheikh of innocents, the blood spiller,” said Ansari.--

Any other crimes you want to pin on this mythical guy?

Was he the yellowcake middleman?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:40 AM
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41. He masterminded the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby. n/t
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 08:53 AM
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39. I Hope Zarq Trips The Detonator On The Way To The John eom
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