Teen wanted in Mass. gay bar attack hospitalized after shootout in Ark.

[Roon]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11146480/

[pinniped]

1. Damm, this is one evil kid.

* and his minions should be proud.

Another link:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/02/04/national/a160111S66.DTL

[Faygo Kid]

2. "This is one disturbed 18-year-old" - Barney Frank

I tend to agree. Not sure we can extrapolate much politically from this. Sad, is my reaction. Little support left for mental illness efforts under Bush. Surprise.

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml

[OKthatsIT]

75. Expect more of them...Rumsfeld training 18 yr olds

Lots of money going into training Marines in Special ops. The recruits are way below average abilities, emotional problems, but perfect for psychological warfare tactics, never understanding the purpose for nor respecting 'posse comitatus' laws.

[Fridays Child]

3. Clown Posse is also the name of a right wing whackjob forum.

Perfect fit, I'd say.

[ET Awful]

4. Damn, he made it all the way to Arkansas?

Sheeit that loon made it a long way, I'm glad they caught his ass.

[unsavedtrash]

5. see his webpage at my space.com ---------->

http://www.myspace.com/jakejekyll

If you are wondering what 14/88 means-8 is the eighth letter in the Alphabet-H so HH = Heil Hitler
14 is the 14 words, ""We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

[Raine]

7. Ugh

he is one very sick kid. :-(

[janx]

10. Yech--

I'm sorry I looked.

[0007]

59. Whew, me too!

[Critters2]

25. Ewww

Barney's right..that is one disturbed 18 year old!

[Redstone]

Is that real, or did some other sick fuck put it up? And WHY is it

still there?

That "myspace" place is a cesspool. I predict it won't last another six months, with all the sexual predation that's going on over there. (Our state AG is going after them, and he doesn't give up easily.)

Redstone

[Ian David]

40. The police kept it up hoping it would help catch him

In case one of his friends posted some kind of clue, for example.

If you were a fugitive, the last thing the cops would do would be to disconnect your cellphone. Or cancel your credit cards. Or cancel your email account.

[Redstone]

43. Aha. Smart move on the cops' part. I feel like a dummy for not having

figured that out. Thanks for the info.

Redstone

[Scooter24]

65. Myspace isn't going anywhere...

It's a huge conglomerate now that News Corp. (Murdoch) bought it for $580 million.

The site has more hits than Google, if that says anything about its popularity.

[SmokingJacket]

6. As a parent, I wonder what happens to a kid to make him like this.

Did he inherit a bad bunch of genes? Was he not given enough love? Was he abused? Got in with a "bad crowd"? Or is it nothing anyone can put a finger on?

Because whatever happened to him -- I want to make sure it doesn't happen to my kids.

[janx]

11. Hard to say, but

"Police officers went to Robida’s home Thursday and spoke to his mother. According to court papers, she said Robida came home around 1 a.m., bleeding from the head, then left. In his bedroom, officers found Nazi regalia and anti-Semitic writings on the wall."

I think as a parent, you might have noticed the awful things in his room and asked him about them. Most of us would have.

[SmokingJacket]

16. Yeah, but it must have started long before he knew what a swastika

is.

I think my worst nightmare as a parent is that I will somehow accidentally create a person who hatchets people in a gay bar. :cry:

[stillcool]

17. This stuff is taught...

by someone...if not the parents, than while the parents are off working their triple shift jobs...by whoever is filling in the time. I don't believe evil is inherent...the seeds need to be cultivated and nurtured just like love....

[Ian David]

45. But there are also things like schizophrenia

Like the guy they made that movie "A Beautiful Mind" about.

He wasn't anti-semitic, but when he was delusional he ranted about being the king of Antarctica and Jewish conspiracies. It was part of his sickness, not part of his character.

But this guy immersed himself in a culture of hate, and his mother either encouraged it, ignored it, or gave-up fighting it.

Was he mentally ill?

Maybe.

But he surrounded himself with people who encouraged it and re-enforced it.

Did you see Trading Spouses with the Godwarrior woman?

"She's not a Christian! Darksided! Darksided! Gargoyles! Everything's darksided!" You know, that lady.

The Godwarrior lady is obviously mentally ill. Probably has temporal lobe epilepsy to boot.

And there are people surrounding her who encourage and re-enforce her sickness. Her "church friends" who come to her house and tell her how godly she is every weekend.

Mentally ill or not, this guy found a community of willing co-conspirators and enabler and people who he could look to who would tell him he was right.
The white supremacists.
The neo-nazis.
His insane clown posse fans.
His family.
The Massachusetts Family Institute.
The Article 8 Alliance.
The Republican Party.
Pat Robertson.
George Bush.
Rick Santorum.
The Islamic Foundation.
The Catholic Church.
Toward Tradition.
Mitt Romney

They all re-enforced him and told him that what he was feeling and thinking was okay and was to be encouraged.

How would you know you were sick if the president tells you that the people you want to kill are a threat to Western Civilization?

[Ian David]

12. Start by not letting him hang swastikas and anti-jewish stuff in his room

It looks like there was trouble at home.

The kid was in some kind of police bootcamp for troubled youth.

His mother has a different last name than he does.

None of the newspaper articles mentions his father.

But what I keep returning to is... his bedroom was decorated with swastikas and hate propaganda!

I wasn't even allowed to have that Farah Faucet poster because my dad was sure he could see a nipple in it!

Did his mom just give-up after some point, or had she been encouraging some of his thinking the whole time?


See also:

Website of Massachusetts alleged bar shooter is found and archived by PageOneQ
http://pageoneq.com/news/2006/bar_0204056l.html

Editorial: Anti-Gay Attack in Massachusetts, Sponsored By...?
http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=2&id=6756

[SmokingJacket]

18. Uh-oh, my son and I have different last names!

I don't think that has much to do with it.

I guess hateful thinking must have been encouraged at some time in the kid's past, though. Sigh. What a nightmare for that mother... unless, of course, she's proud...

[barb162]

66. What's up with mommy dearest for allowing this hate stuff

"In his bedroom, officers found Nazi regalia and anti-Semitic writings on the wall."

Or was she dense and maybe thinking he was just going through a "hate" phase.

Whenever there's a fucked up kid, take a look at the parents

[LostinVA]

22. Sounds like a sociopath -- his parents probably didn't do a thing

[SmokingJacket]

31. Pure genes, huh? Kinda scary.

I wonder if you can nip it in the bud, though. I mean, if your kid's toturing cats at seven, can you turn him around by the time he's eighteen?

I like to believe that if this boy had a strong, smart, loving role model early in life, he would take a different path. But I wonder how much is wishful thinking...

[LostinVA]

70. I think it's very possible, yes

And from what I read, if it is true sociopathic personalities, no, you can't change it. It just manifested itself this way, instead.

Yup, it's scary as hell...

[foo_bar]

23. I'm guessing it has a lot to do with environment

If I recall correctly, New Bedford is the poorest town in MA (unless Lynn, Mass takes the lead in unemployment and euphemistically named "brownfields"):

Like many New England cities, New Bedford’s legacy of fishing and manufacturing has suffered over the past few decades. New Bedford has lost more than 11,000 manufacturing jobs, and more than 16 percent of the fisherman have lost their jobs. The city has high unemployment (12 percent) and poverty (20 percent) rates. In 1995, the city was identified by a U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) report as being “doubly burdened” by population loss and high poverty rates, and the state has designated New Bedford as an “economically distressed area.”

http://www.epa.gov/brownfields/html-doc/sc_newbed.htm

My brother was attacked by kids with baseball bats in New Bedford, and he was with a girl.

[Critters2]

26. When I lived in Mass,

Chelsea was the poorest city. So, has Chelsea gotten better, or New Bedford gotten poorer?

[foo_bar]

30. they're pretty comparable, but Chelsea wins the prize

The per capita income (per capita income: The total national income divided by the number of people in the nation) for the city is $14,628. 23.3% of the population and 20.6% of families are below the poverty line (poverty line: A level of personal income defining the state of poverty) . Out of the total population, 28.8% of those under the age of 18 and 20.9% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/chelsea_massachusetts

The per capita income (per capita income: The total national income divided by the number of people in the nation) for the city is $15,602. 20.2% of the population and 17.3% of families are below the poverty line (poverty line: A level of personal income defining the state of poverty) . Out of the total population, 29.1% of those under the age of 18 and 15.7% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/new_bedford_massachusetts

The per capita income (per capita income: The total national income divided by the number of people in the nation) for the city is $17,492. 16.5% of the population and 13.2% of families are below the poverty line (poverty line: A level of personal income defining the state of poverty) . Out of the total population, 22.9% of those under the age of 18 and 14.6% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/lynn_massachusetts

[sarcasmo]

33. Isn't Dictator 43's economy doing just fine?

[foo_bar]

41. it isn't Colombia, yet...

http://www.colombiassh.org/archivos/archivos/Pob._bajo_linea_%20Pobreza_dpto.pdf

Or even parts of Louisiana and Mississippi, for that matter. But it's tough when your manufacturing base disappears overnight, going from american dream to free trade statistic.

[Gelliebeans]

67. Those were my thoughts too

I was a rebel in my time and so was my husband (we were long haired metal heads from the 80's)but we grew out of it like most. Now we have a 12 year old and he is a good kid but I'm afraid of the day when we, as his parents, stop being the biggest influence in his life. Sheesh talk about being nervous.

All we can do is talk with kids and engage them and hope that that will be enough. There is such a fine line we walk.

My son heard this story about this kid on the news and I asked him why that kid might of done all those terrible things and he said, "He probably didn't have a good relationship with his parents,"

:shrug:

[SmokingJacket]

73. That's interesting.

I had a lot of anger when I was a kid, but I never did anything, never acted out. One day I asked myself why not? Why not burn down the school?

And the answer was, Then my parents wouldn't love or respect me anymore. It was that simple.

[Sanguinary Pig]

8. What a

Grotsky little biotch.

[Ian David]

9. Arkansas has the death penalty

I wonder if he knew that, and if he chose to take a stand there so he could be martyred on death row if he didn't die in the street?

In any case, since he's killed a cop in Arkansas, I think they get to try him (and sentence him) down there.

I hope we don't try to have him extradited back to Massachusetts.



Arkansas

Does my state have the death penalty?
Yes, Arkansas has executed a total of 27 people since 1976.

What is my governor's position on the death penalty?
Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) supports the death penalty.

How many people are on Death Row in my state?
There are currently 39 prisoners on Death Row in Arkansas. Of the 39 Death Row prisoners, 23 are black, 16 are white, and 1 is Latino.

A bill was introduced in the State Legislature in 2003 by Rep. Jim Lendall to impose a moratorium on the death penalty and to create a study commission—this bill died in committee in April 2003.

More:
http://deadlinethemovie.com/state/AR/index.php

[Art_from_Ark]

35. Assuming this kid survives,

(and that isn't a "given" considering he's in critical condition with two slugs in his head), who will try him first? Certainly both Arkansas and Massachusetts will want try him for viscious crimes, and I have a sneaking suspicion that since he was driving a car with Kentucky tags, he might have abducted the driver, who could have been the unidentified female passenger in his car who was killed in the shootout. In that case, at least three states might have a case against him. Extradition proceedings could get a bit complicated.

[Ian David]

38. There's a federal death penalty for homicide during a carjacking n/t

[pschoeb]

13. Here's the guys myspace site, totally crazy

Jake Jekyll
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=33058159

I would say the kid just seems to have had a bizzare death wish

Also from looking at posts he put on friends sites, it would seem he was homeless for awhile, and looking to score drugs possibly.

Also a kid named David Conrad Jr. who seems to have been a friend of this kids group, died in a car accident in 2004, possibly suicide?

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/12/13/teen_accused_of_drunk_driving_in_crash/

[Democrats_win]

14. Fanning the flames: bu$h, Focus on the Fasicists & the GOP.

[Atmashine]

28. Focus on the Fascists

Lol! That's just awesome.

[Christa]

15. good gawd

how can anyone get this bad in only 18 years?

[William769]

19. To bad the police didn't have better aim.

[LisaL]

47. They shot him twice in the head. I would say that is not bad aim.

[Endangered Specie]

61. Apparently, he doesnt have as many major organs there.

[FlemingsGhost]

20. Perhaps "Jake" will have a better understanding of homosexuality

when he's someone's prison yard bitch.

[lapfog_1]

21. Reading his posts on his friends blogs

it would seem that he was very worried about some recent myspace issues... namely some underage girls hooked up with some 20 somethings, and they may have been sexually assaulted. Anyway, he was worried that the police would start looking for other things on myspace (drugs, raves, taggers)... and thought that "the pigs" might be after him soon. So I'm guessing the attack at the bar and the shootout in AK were an attempt for him to go out in a blaze of "glory" (so to speak). Truly sad. I think he is a very sick young person with a lot of rage... and nowhere to let it out. Not making excuses... just observations.

[Zenlitened]

24. Homophobia kills straight people, too.

[Redstone]

27. If you're anti-death-penalty, please explain to me who benefits from

keeping this scum alive. Except him, of course.

Why shouldn't society rid itself of this monster?

Redstone

[catnhatnh]

32. Yes...it is still wrong...

Just when your emotions most strongly yell for the death penalty, is the time to ask why? It changes nothing-it looks like he wanted to die...He is mentally disturbed or sociologically stunted...How many are dead? More have been killed but the killer lives...Who would you align with-Saudi Arabia, North Korea, China?Or rather face the fact that allowing a screwed up child to be raised up to become a prejudiced asshole and killer should be stopped even if it costs a lot of money...Somewhere a necessary intervention was missed...

[Redstone]

34. But it's too late for that intervention now.

I'd appreciate it if you could directly anser my question: Who benefits (besides him) from keeping him alive?

I'm not being hostile, here. I'm interested in your opinion.

Redstone

[catnhatnh]

36. OK...and no hostility is involved...

...really trying to discuss as we should among friends-I read your posts and would like us to be friends though I am probably left of you.At this point in the judicial system, enforcing the death penalty COSTS (actual dollar cost) more than life without parole.So our society benefits once.In my (probably socialist) soul,I believe that keeping the blemish of killing from our hearts also benefits our society.Of course my basic instincts call for blood...I just hope that we can rise above it...Regards,Cat

[Redstone]

37. Even though I don't agree with it, part of your argument is certainly

a valid one, that our society should "rise above killing."

That, I can respect.

I just feel that it's the only way to keep this pieces of sewage from killing anyone else...murderers do continue to murder when they're in prison, after all.

I guess I see society on a more basic level than you do (which probably makes you a better person tham me); for example, if I had a chicken far, and my dog developed a taste for chicken, I'd shoot the dog (if I couldn't give it away to someone else). The dog would be threatening the livelihood of my little society (the farm) and would have to go. And I don't think that jail is equivalent to giving the dog away, but don't ask me to explain that.

If you reply to this and don't get an answer from me, it's not because I'm going off in a snit...I have to go put the Little Guy to bed soon. It's been nice chatting with you, even if we are on different sides of this issue.

Oh, by the way, you're from New Hampshire? I grew up in Vermont just across the river from Lancaster NH...not from up that way, are you?

Redstone

[foo_bar]

46. you'd shoot the dog?

Have you ever heard of a humane shelter? There has to be more to the social contract than Pleistocene hunting-gathering.

Edit: okay, maybe I was thinking of Old Yeller.

Ma wants to put Yeller out of his misery right away, but Travis protests: "We can’t just shoot him like he was nothing!" Travis devises another trial. (It is part of the film’s dream logic that the dog is sometimes the child having to constantly prove himself, and sometimes the good/bad father figure.) They will imprison the dog in the corn crib, and if after a few weeks he fails to show signs of disease, they’ll let him out.

Yeller is fine at first. But inevitably the terrible transformation occurs. Travis walks into the barn at night (of course), and the dog, his face crossed with shadows, snarls at him as if he were an enemy. In one of the film’s most expressive shots, Travis, in close-up, closes the barn door, the door gradually obscuring his face, a perfect visual metaphor for his denial/refusal to admit what has become of his beloved pet.

Travis’s not telling his family what he has seen results in near-disaster. Arliss, who can’t wait any longer, almost releases the rabid dog. In a scene played almost entirely in reaction shots (first Travis, then Travis’s finger on the trigger, then the anxious womenfolk, then Travis again), Travis shoots Yeller. The concluding shot of the sequence places the woman in the background against a barn wall, frame-left, while in the background, frame-right, Travis walks away from the camera into the dark and night.

The very next shot, reversing its predecessor, shows the return of the father, riding toward us out of the background, frame-right, on a bright sunlit day. What these images tell us is that Old Yeller and the father are alter-egos, or — more accurately — that it is the destruction of the Bad Father (the rabid Old Yeller) that allows the Good Father to return. The film operates like a dream in which Dad, Yeller, Mr. Searcy, and the Kindly Stranger, are interchangeable symbols for one another. The fear of transformation that informs this film (and Walt Disney’s work in general) is a fear of child abuse, specifically a fear of that traumatic moment when the beloved good parent turns into the abusive bad parent. Disney’s biographers have reported how Walt’s farmer father used to beat him regularly with a leather strap. Similarly, the recurring images of imprisonment in Old Yeller (the cave, the corn crib) and other Disney films (the wooden puppet cages and "donkey" crates of Pinocchio) can probably be traced to traumatic incidents in Disney’s rural childhood.

http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/32/oldyeller1.html

[catnhatnh]

51. If you don't reply,that's OK...

I used to put a little guys AND girls to bed...a blessing we sometimes forget to say thanks for (especially after the third excuse/request that prevents silence and peace in the house).Actually I live in Rochester now,but am from Connecticut...only been here 12 years and as you know-that's still a flatlander...Do I feel as you do-sure....so easy to kill and be done with this trash...but again,I wish us not to tarnish ourselves...I've seen documentaries on super-max prisons that may be the only cure...Sadly our prisons hold several classes of prisoners...victims of the drug and alcohol wars,economic losers,one time violent offenders,and the incorrigibles....and oh yeah-sex offenders both guilty and guilty by circumstance and the odd innocent inmate....It may be obvious that I feel the drug deal is for most part a bust...economic losers would gladly go straight for less than the cost of their incarceration....But we imprison a larger proportion of our population than most the world and look to for profit jailers for advice-so....jail less,rehabilitate more, ban the death penalty and make sure life without parole means that...how about an exile island with a semi-open society??Would it work-it has elsewhere,and I don't think it would hurt to try....the jails we have aren't working...regards,Cat

[Redstone]

52. Hey, I'm still here. I agree 100% with your views about the prisons.

It's an utter disgrace.

So there's our common ground...I do like to find some kind of common ground with other DUers, even if we are on opposite sides on some issues.

I went the opposite direction - from Vermont to Connecticut (with stops in other places). Mrs R has talked about us moving to Vermont or NH, but the property taxes up there give me the willies.

Redsotne

[catnhatnh]

55. Would love to have you back....

I was from Stratford (just east of Bridgeport) and raised on the sound....I reckon' I could still sail a mean Sunfish in a squall..I'm curious about your name...are you,unlike those in the Motel 6 commercial a "rocket scientist"???

[Redstone]

56. No, it's one of my names. Doesn't have to do with the rockets or

the arsenal.

We're on the shore too (Old Saybrook) but I don't have a boat. Never got into sailing, and motorboats are too damn loud and wasteful.

Redstone

[catnhatnh]

58. Old Saybrook is lovely...

...And our chat has been fun...best...

[FVZA_Colonel]

54. "Exile Island"

An interesting idea, but when I read that I couldn't help but think of "Escape from New York" and "Escape from L.A." (just saying what I thought of, I am not necessarily for or against it).

[catnhatnh]

57. I understand that one of the Islands...

...near Devil's Island was run that way for those who had completed their terms but still not allowed to return to France....Like-we are done punishing but don't want you here...live in this lesser society-and therein find your place-really not a horrible idea...everyone you interacted with would also bear the stigma-a society of ex-cons can certainly not look down on itself...

[tanyev]

72. Another point.

Pardon me for butting in to the conversation, but there's another aspect I became aware of a few years ago, and you seem like a person you can have a calm, rational discussion with even if you disagree.

I worked for a sheriff's office a few years ago and somewhere in one of the trainings they sent me to I heard that with all the guaranteed appeals a person on death row gets, and the fact that most of them use state-appointed attorneys, it costs a lot more to execute someone than to just keep them locked up for life. I had never thought of it that way before.

Texas unfortunately does not have a sentencing option for life without parole (yet), so I think one motivation for so many getting the death penalty here is the nagging fear that a murderer may get back out on the streets in 30 years or so. But if they can be kept locked up for the rest of their lives without any chance of getting out, I think living with the knowledge of what they did is a harsher punishment. Plus, there are more and more death row criminals being exonerated by DNA evidence. I hate to think of how many innocent men have been wrongly executed.

[RobinA]

62. Anti Death Penalty, Here

Society benefits when the state doesn't give itself a license to kill people. Any people. Heinous people included.

[RobinA]

63. Anti Death Penalty, Here

Society benefits when the state doesn't give itself a license to kill people. Any people. Heinous people included.

[flvegan]

64. We do, sir, as a society

We don't "keep him alive" nor do we "let him live." We simply move along, with another monster in our jail system.

Fact is, there's been no conviction, right? Therefore, neither you, nor I, have any space at all to dictate what happens to anyone.

When that fact changes, we can reconvene, at which point I'm sure we'll be closer in our thoughts on the subject.

[democrank]

29. Such a disturbed kid, such

a horrible crime. Glad he`s off the streets.

[BlueInPhilly]

39. Death is too easy

whether from the 2 slugs in his head or the needle. He should live a VERY VERY VERY long, long, long, long time in jail. But a friend of mine suspects that kid is in reality gay himself; he just couldn't accept it.

[RedEarth]

42. AP article ........ Teen Wanted in Gay Bar Rampage Is Caught

GASSVILLE, Ark. (AP) - A teenager suspected of a hatchet-and-gun attack in a Massachusetts gay bar shot and killed a small-town police officer and the teen's female passenger before he was critically wounded in a gun battle with police Saturday, authorities said.

Jacob D. Robida, 18, was shot twice in the head and "it doesn't look good right now," said Massachusetts prosecutor Paul Walsh Jr. Walsh said the teen shot Officer Jim Sell, 56, twice during a traffic stop in this northern Arkansas town.

About 25 miles away, Robida sped over spike strips set out by state troopers, but continued to drive with two punctured tires into downtown Norfork. Robida's car then careened into several parked vehicles to avoid a police barricade.

"When he wrecked he started firing at our officer and a state police officer and the officers returned fire," said Baxter County Sheriff John Montgomery. Walsh said the teen shot his unidentified female passenger before he was wounded in the shootout with police.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060205/D8FIM3LO2.html

[Ian David]

49. Okay, I get it. He was taken to a hospital in Missouri

Jacob D. Robida was wounded in the shootout and taken to a Springfield, Mo., hospital, according to state police spokesman Bill Sadler.

After police officer Jim Sell, 56, was shot to death in the northern Arkansas town of Gassville, a witness told police a green Pontiac with Kentucky license plates left the scene, Sadler said.

<snip>

About 15 miles from Gassville, gunfire was exchanged with police in Norfork, where the 18-year-old was wounded and a female passenger was killed, Sadler said. He did not know the name of the passenger or her relationship with Robida.

More:
http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2006/02/04/ap/headlines/d8fil4p04.txt

I guess Missouri had the closest trauma center?

[feminazi]

44. OMG! My mom lives right in that area.

here's the link to the local newspaper

http://www.baxterbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

[Ian David]

48. Local news teaser on WCVB Fox-5 just said the kid is in Missouri

The news would never get anything wrong, would they?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

50. local news in wva is reporting that his passenger was from Charleston

he picked her up at her home while on the run. she was 33 years old. have no idea why she was with this kid.

[LisaL]

53. Maybe kidnapped?

[wakeme2008]

68. per the article

they were online friends.

[salin]

71. I found that odd, as well... mentioned correspondance

(as in they had been corresponding) - I take that to mean that they crossed path via the internets - it would suggest that she shared some of his hate pathologies. It appears (as I read it) she has now died due to that pathology. It doesn't say whether or not it was likely that she knew what he had done in the Mass bar before getting into the car with him. We will probably never know the answer to that. It could also be that she is of the "save the kid" thing and was trying to save him from himself - but somehow that seems less likely. Whatever reason she was connected with him and got in the car and on the run with him - she payed a very steep price.

[Endangered Specie]

60. To bad this asshole's injuries were not fatal

would have saved the court system alot of money, and the prick will probably get (and fully deserve) capital punishment.

[MaineDem]

69. He's still critical n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

74. Just read the little piece of shit is dead.

Good riddens to bad rubish.