Abramoff says he met Bush "almost a dozen" times

[deminks]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060209/pl_nm/crime_abramoff_dc_2

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Jack Abramoff said in correspondence made public on Thursday that President Bush met him "almost a dozen" times, disputing White House claims Bush did not know the former lobbyist at the center of a corruption scandal.

"The guy saw me in almost a dozen settings, and joked with me about a bunch of things, including details of my kids. Perhaps he has forgotten everything, who knows," Abramoff wrote in an e-mail to Kim Eisler, national editor for the Washingtonian magazine.

Abramoff added that Bush also once invited him to his Texas ranch.

The messages were made public by the American Progress Action Fund, a liberal activist group. Eisler confirmed their accuracy to Reuters but said he did not intend them to become public.

[Barrett808]

1. Boom. n/t

[goforit]

57. Ba da Boom!

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. And how many times

did Abramoff meet Bush before Bush was pResident?

[MagickMuffin]

35. Answer to your question

The records from Abramoff's firm, obtained by The Associated Press from the Marianas under an open records request, chronicle Abramoff's careful cultivation of relations with Bush's political team as far back as 1997.

In that year, Abramoff charged the Marianas for getting then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush to write a letter expressing support for the Pacific territory's school choice proposal, his billing records show.

"I hope you will keep my office informed on the progress of this initiative," Bush wrote in a July 18, 1997, letter praising the islands' school plan and copying in an Abramoff deputy.

White House spokeswoman Erin Healy said Thursday that Bush didn't consider Abramoff a friend. "They may have met on occasion, but the president does not know him," she said.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-06-abramoff-bush_x.htm

I have been trying to get this info out to people like Think Progress, however they never responded:shrug:

[leQ]

42. this is a perfect example of how republicans will drop you in a second

first you're their friend when they can get what they want from you, and when they've had enough of you, or you do something embarrassing, they no sooner know you than take a dump in public.

[mitchum]

3. Rats...what sweet music they make!

[jasmeel]

4. rate is up on yahoo!

[rodeodance]

11. and email it.

[rodeodance]

12. and nominate it here

[VegasWolf]

5. Nothing like the smell of rat desperation in the morning.

:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:

[HuffleClaw]

6. cool beans. the 'real' media picks up the tale!

NOW what will scotty say? 'ongoing investigaton, blah blah blah, i cannot comment for my comments would be politicized...'

[LynnTheDem]

7. Bush also once invited him to his Texas ranch

Gee...ya mean BUSH LIED??!

Oh my gawd I am so shocked.

[rodeodance]

8. this news was going award the net a month ago.

[rodeodance]

14. maybe not a month ago but we have heard these stories of Bush talking

about twins--jr and abramoff both have twins.

Just wondering --yes it made msm now YEAH

[acmavm]

9. Hey, there's terrorists leaving poisonous substances in Washington

D.C. office buildings. Ignore everything else, pay attention. We diverted a terrorist attack on LA in 2002. Hey! I'm talking to you.

These people are totally crazed and desperate. They better be coming up with some diversions. Between this guy and Libby squealing on Cheney, well what can I say? It's been a bad day for the bush** administration liars.

[bigluckyfeet]

13. Mr.Pig Rancher

Does not invite people he does not know to the pig ranch.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

29. The "Look over there!" post is quite common.

Sometimes it has relevency, though- such as in your post. Whenever they announce Anything, listen for the sounds of shoes dropping.

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

10. te he--Scott M. response is funny:

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said on Thursday that the revelations did not prove Bush knew him well.

"I think as the president also indicated, he's taken at least five photos with many people in this room at the annual holiday reception. And so I think you need to put this in context," McClellan said.

Abramoff spokesman Andrew Blum declined to comment.

Abramoff raised more than $100,000 for Bush's 2004 re-election campaign, a feat that won him an invitation to Bush's ranch in August 2003, the National Journal reported at the time.

[Turbineguy]

15. A dozen times?

No wonder Bush doesn't know who the fuck he is.

[susu369]

22. Bush doesn't know Jack sh*t

[calimary]

23. LOL!

Yeah. MY ASS he doesn't know THIS particular Jack. If ANYBODY was out there generating six-figures for bush or anybody in his precious GOP, it's a VERY safe bet that he knew this guy. Probably intimately. Doesn't 100-thousand dollars raised qualify him for "bush Pioneer" status?

[Vanje]

40. hey, Give the president a break. He meets thousands of people......

its hard to keep track of these things when you're drunk half the time.

[rodeodance]

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[rodeodance]

17. includes the two Bush Administration people involved.

......Although the Abramoff scandal has mostly focused attention so far on prominent House Republicans, including former Majority Leader
Tom DeLay of Texas, at least two Bush administration officials have been implicated.

David Safavian, a former White House budget official, has been charged with lying and obstructing investigations into his 2002 golf outing to Scotland with Abramoff.

Stephen Griles, the former No. 2 official at the Interior Department, has come under scrutiny after allegations he tried to block a casino at Abramoff's request.

[David Zephyr]

18. I takes forever to rate this story at Yahoo.

What's with rating this story high at Yahoo. It takes forever to load. Anyone else have this experience?

[EndElectoral]

19. Just one more GW lie...People just don't seem to care anymore!!!!

[leftchick]

20. listen, 5 years ago he got away with not knowing kenny boy

I don't see what has changed.

[bobbieinok]

53. AND didn't W use Lay's plane in campaign 2000?????

[leftchick]

55. yes

a lot. So there you go.

[Trillo]

21. So, let's get the new-fangled "deception detector" going.

It might be difficult to get Bush on it, so, Abramoff would be the next choice. Isn't there a new brain scan lie detector recently hyped in the news?

[hvn_nbr_2]

25. It already works: If his lips are moving, he's lying. n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

24. Earlier DU threads on this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x361188
thread title (2-8-06 GD): EXCLUSIVE EMAILS: Jack Abramoff Describes Relationship With President Bush
Comment/excerpt: “According to Abramoff, the two have met almost a dozen times, shared jokes, and spoke about details of Abramoff’s family:
‘HE HAS ONE OF THE BEST MEMORIES OF ANY POLITICIAN I HAVE EVER MET. IT WAS ONE IF (sic) HIS TRADEMARKS, THOUGH OF COURSE HE CAN’T RECALL THAT HE HAS A GREAT MEMORY! THE GUY SAW ME IN ALMOST A DOZEN SETTINGS, AND JOKED WITH ME ABOUT A BUNCH OF THINGS, INCLUDING DETAILS OF MY KIDS. PERHAPS HE HAS FORGOTTEN EVERYTHING. WHO KNOWS’ ”

Another thread on this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x363378
thread title (2-8-06 GD): E-mails show bush INVITED Jackoff To The Ranch in 2003?!?

And then there is this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x363905
thread title (2-8-06 GD): USA Today describes Bush and Abramoff as 'close' in 2003

[stop the bleeding]

26. Is news breaking left and right or what!!!! thank you K&R n/t

[Catch22Dem]

27. Are these Aspen roots connected to the other Aspen roots?

Just curious. Seems they're all turning...in clusters.

[jazzjunkysue]

28. rated. Yahoo: Presidential Pants On Fire. Film at 11.

[Straight Shooter]

30. "The guy ... joked with me about a bunch of things ..."

Do you suppose bush joked with Abramoff about the same things he joked with his father about?

For those who don't know the story, bush was once asked by a reporter what he and his dad talked about in private between themselves, and bush responded, "Pussy." A real class act. :eyes:

[shanti]

51. but hey

that just makes him an "average joe", you know, someone you can have a beer and joke about "pussy" with. :sarcasm: :eyes:

[sarcasmo]

31. Kick and Nom #20, Dictator 43 caught in yet another lie.

[Miss Chybil]

32. You mean Bush lies? I'm... I'm... oh, my God! I can't believe it!

Oh, the humanity!

[janetle]

47. You know it and I know it but....

...there are still millions of people who only have access to FOX who voted for this guy and they believe he is honest--not so smart maybe--but honest.

But this Abramoff thing is easy for them to get--if we somehow get through to them. "Look, people, your darling folksy pres denies ever knowing a good buddy of his who came to his BBQ's. This is a lie."

I wonder what his Bushie nickname is.

[Miss Chybil]

52. I can imagine his nickname starts with Jack and ends with Off! LOL! nt

[Catherine Vincent]

33. But it wasn't over a thousand times so technically, Bush doesn't know him.

:-)

[truthisfreedom]

34. "Perhaps he has forgotten everything, who knows." which explains it all.

Iraq, everything. bush has such severe memory loss from his alcoholism/drug abuse that his brain is as porous as swiss cheese? is this what scotty will use as bush's excuse?

[orleans]

36. ha! n/t

[PhilipShore]

37. WP: Lobbyist Told Reporter of Nearly a Dozen Contacts With Bush

Washington Post
Lobbyist Told Reporter of Nearly a Dozen Contacts With Bush
By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 10, 2006

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/09/AR2006020902118.html

President Bush met lobbyist Jack Abramoff almost a dozen times over the past five years and invited him to Crawford, Tex., in the summer of 2003, according to an e-mail Abramoff wrote to a reporter last month.

[PermanentRevolution]

38. Ahh, how sweet it is...

I love it when I get home from work and there's a fresh BushCo cover-up hitting the MSM...

[savemefromdumbya]

39. Abramoff doesn't look like he's going to protect the President?

I think there was a little bit in the Wall Street journal this morning about this

[cmd]

41. Hell hath no fury like a lobbyest scorned

He is heartbroken that Bush no longer knows him. Keep crying, Jack. Love your e-mails.

[VonDoomPhd]

43. Blurry photos posted on newsgroup last night...

http://server3.pictiger.com/img/161731/picture-hosting/colage-2.php

[cmd]

44. Welcome to DU, Dr. VonDoom

Thanks for the link. I always appreciate good photography.

[habitual]

48. thanx for the link to the pics

I have taken the pic and split it up into individual pics and blown each one up double size and posted them at RunButCantHide.com

That is a site i started back when bush started using the term that he once reserved for obl on kerry. I figured i'd get this domain and post pics of him as it looks like now BUSH is trying to run.... but he can't hide!!!!

edited to fix link.

[habitual]

59. pics removed

pics removed as the legitimacy of them is questionable.

[PhilipShore]

45. WP/AP: Abramoff E-Mail Plays Up Bush Contacts

Abramoff E-Mail Plays Up Bush Contacts
By PETE YOST
The Associated Press
Friday, February 10, 2006

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/10/AR2006021000768.html

WASHINGTON -- Jack Abramoff had brief conversations with President Bush almost a dozen times and the president knew him well enough to make joking references to Abramoff's family, according to an e-mail the fallen lobbyist sent a magazine editor.

[valerief]

46. No Health Care Bennies either!!!!!!!!

Let the plunderer pay for it out of his spoils.

[lovuian]

49. Abrahmhoff did his dirty work for him and is not letting Bush

get off the hook!!!

Everybody is turning on him!!!

[twaddler01]

50. I hope so

hope he gets that impeachment I dream about everyday....

[confludemocrat]

54. journalist "did not intend them (the e-mails) to be public" WTF?

what is wrong with this country? If he had this public-needs-to-know-worthy info, he intended to sit on it? and if he truly wanted it out, why does he lie about it
can someone explain this messed up shit?

[slackmaster]

56. We should trust Jack Abramoff???

Maybe we should trust him when only he says what we want to hear.

:freak:

[zonkra]

58. Jack can't believe

Dub's forgotten all those rides up on Brokeback Mountain! "As close as we were at Brokeback Ranch, how could Dub forget me?", Jack sobbed. "He gave me this pair of genuine Cheneyskin boots!"

[BookemDano]

60. Good OLE JACK

Maybe he is saying the truth about the pics maybe now he has nothing to lose.Yet I am still leary about him but,I want to see those pics so bad hopefully they will come out from somewhere.For now I am quite hesitant I will keep and open mind hey you never know!

[onehandle]

61. Hey! Give Bush some credit!

He had his head buried in his Gameboy every single time.

He probably didn't even notice "Jacky Boy".

Those pictures were obviously Photoshopped by librul bloggers.