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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:54 PM
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BBC: Whale meat 'made into dog food'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4700418.stm


Japan has recently expanded its whaling programme

Meat from whales caught under Japan's "research" programme is so abundant that it is being sold as pet food, according to a UK conservation group.

Thousands of tonnes of whale meat has been stockpiled as more animals are killed each year, says the Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society (WDCS).

The Japanese government has attempted to sell the whale meat to schools but the price has continued to fall.

A company is selling meat on the web as "healthy and safe natural" dog food.

"A quiet whale meat boom is starting," says the website hakudai.com.

"The number of pet-owners who care about their animals' health are growing, recognising the nutritious value of whale meat," it adds.


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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:54 PM
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1. With lots of yummy dioxin and other POPs!
Mmmmmmmmmm, Fido, eat!!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:23 PM
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8. no kidding
aren't the Orcas in the pacific NW considered toxic? Human beings are neither. :(
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:05 PM
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2.  We all know the real reason why they hunt whales... its their size.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:33 PM
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:41 PM
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22. Size?
Do you mean the size of the whales or size issues of the needle-dicked assholes who kill them? ;)
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:04 PM
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23. You said it not me. Hee-hee. Really though, my heart just breaks
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 10:05 PM by henslee
when I hear of Polar Bears swimmming to their deaths miles from the ice or manatees run over by speed boats in the Florida intercostal waterway... or sonar driving whales and dolphins bonkers.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:08 PM
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24. Certainly
I don't mean to make a joke of it. I honestly can't understand what the hell can be so broken inside somebody that they could kill and eat a whale.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:16 PM
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25.  Broken inside. You said it.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:53 PM
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26. OOOOHHHHH!!!!
Extra points for "needle-dicked assholes"

However, I am going to cite you a point since you haven't actually SEEN all the needle-dicks of the assholes that kill them. You're assuming, and though I support and fully believe in your statement, it still needs to be docked a point. Had you used the word "alleged" anywhere in your post you'd get full credit.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:57 PM
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28. And I don't want to see 'em either
except perhaps to point and laugh. :D
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:05 PM
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3. I think it's horrible
to me whales are beautiful, this make me sad...
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:11 PM
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4. So are cows. n/t
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:15 PM
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5. Whales are going to be extinct in our lifetime if this continues
I don't think cows will be
(BTW....Am not a red-meat eater :) )
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:58 PM
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11. I did not mean to minimize the plight of whales. It was just that the
image of one big animal with big eyes made me think of another that does not deserve to be raised to be slaughtered.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:20 PM
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6. I agree
:)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:22 PM
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7. to put the shadow on our eye

Over the years you have been hunted
by the men who threw harpoons
And in the long run he will kill you
just to feed the pets we raise,
put the flowers in your vase
and make the lipstick for your face.
Over the years you swam the ocean
Following feelings of your own
Now you are washed up on the shoreline
I can see your body lie
It's a shame you have to die
to put the shadow on our eye
Maybe we'll go
Maybe we'll disappear
It's not that we don't know
It's just that we don't want to care.
Under the bridges
Over the foam
Wind on the water
Carry me home.

Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:30 PM
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9. Their so-called research has taken the whale from the ocean onto...
the dinner table and into the dog food bag.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:31 PM
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10. People imagine they will have died of old age before the effects of their
exploitation of the earth and other people are ever realized. They suffer from a serious deficit of responsibility.

Greed defenders always have to dress up their ideas to look like something better: there's always a "greater good" they serve. The "greater good" is never really good for anyone else. Raw confrontation over greed almost never happens, when there are so many ways to disguise it.

As long as thieves like Bush sit in the highest positions and hand out blank checks to fellow thugs, the entire planet suffers.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:02 PM
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12. Yet more proof...
That Japanese whaling is about Japanese pride rather than Japanese diets..

They already take 1/4 more than they can use (last year a 1/4 of the catch was put into long term storage because no one wanted to buy it) but the fact that so many nations are saying NO is what is making them demand more - they just refuse to allow anyone else to tell them what they can and can't do.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:08 PM
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13. Really! One would wish they'd make their stand over something less hideous
This is a horrendous error.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:04 PM
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15. Much of what's left goes to the school lunch program
to indoctrinate young children as the next generation of whale eaters. :grr:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:53 PM
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14. Next year's whaling season will be different. The Japanese
whaling fleet has no idea what it's in for.

Why?

Because these good folks



are getting a faster ship. Capt. Paul Watson, Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, has already turned The Farley Mowat over to her new Captain, Alex Cornelissen.

Next year, will be very different.

You can read "50 Days at Sea for the Whales" here:
http://www.seashepherd.org/news/media_060123_1.html
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Number9Dream Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:08 PM
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16. Related link - Japan likes killing whales, but not eating them
"The enthusiasm of Japanese for whaling has surpassed their appetite for actually eating the mammals, leaving retailers with a glut of unsold whale meat." Too f***ing bad!

"Commercial whaling was banned by the International Whaling Commission in 1986 but Japan has continued to hunt under a loophole allowing whales to be killed for "research"."

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/10/whale10.xml

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:36 PM
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19. that is just so fucking sick
:banghead: :puke:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:10 PM
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17. Whale blubber?
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 08:12 PM by 0007
This is indeed a sham. We must save the whales!

1. What is blubber?

Blubber is a subcutaneous layer of fat. (Subcutaneous means just
below the skin.)

2. What purpose does blubber serve for us in society?

The purpose of blubber for the whale is to provide insulation from
the cold water and it stores energy.

Blubber provides food for some people, such as the Inupiat of the
Western Arctic. Historically, blubber was rendered down (boiled) by
whalers into an oil that was useful in making candles, burning in
lamps, and in a variety of other uses. It hold no societal purpose at
this time.

3. Why are whales destroyed for their blubber and is this the only animal
that can produce it?

Whales were killed historically for their blubber because it was
profitable. There was money to be made in whale oil.

All mammals produce fat -- some more than others. In whales, the
location of fat is purposeful to provide insulation, as well as store
energy. In other mammals (such as humans), fat does provide some
insulation, but that is not its purpose. In most other mammals,
insulation is provided by hair, and fat stores energy. Whales lost
their hair through evolution because it causes a drag while swimming
under water. A smooth skin is more efficient in water.

Cheers,

Pieter Folkens
Alaska Whale Foundation

link
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:23 PM
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18. Soylent Pink is WHALES!
--p!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:25 PM
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20. DISGUSTING...
there is no need for killing these majestic creatures whatsoever! :mad:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:56 PM
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27. God, I just HATE this stuff. Fuckers. I hope some hidden parasite
comes into play and bites them on their ass. Whales for dog food. For oil. For shoe polish. THis is beyond contemptible.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:12 PM
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30. When My Husband Was A Kid
his family ate whale. Said it was yummy - he doesn't agree with the return of whaling BTW
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:12 PM
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29.  I just don't get this ignorant world
Why was I born here, I don't know, but while I'm here I'll do my best.
But I guess, if I were loving and wise, this is where I'd go, for a little while, see you in the future. Peace
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:47 PM
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31. Is this like when they make chicken taste like hotdogs? Or am I missing
something?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:24 AM
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32. kick for whales
:kick:
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:29 AM
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33. Every Japanese department store...
... has a grocery store in the two floors below ground level. And every Japanese grocery store I've been in during 6 trips to Japan over the past 8 years has had whale meat for sale.

Scientific whaling my ass.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:33 PM
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36. That's right. What science? The science of making money
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:26 PM
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34. One last kick for the day shift
:kick:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:32 PM
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35. It's amazing how much "research" Japan is doing on whales
and for SO MANY years. I wonder if after all these years of killing these wonderful animals they ever came up with any scientific finds.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:33 PM
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37. kick
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 05:11 PM
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38. What are the researching? recipes?
I hate idea of whaling, but I can understand it. If the whale is used entirely, then a cow-eater like me has no moral high ground.

However, the fact that whales are likely to become extinct in our lifetime. The fact that they are whaling for no useful purpose. - It's just intolerable.

Flooding the market with whale is unlikely to cause it to become more appealing.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:03 AM
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39. kicking to expose Japan's dirty truth about whaling
:kick:
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Spankydem Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 11:07 AM
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40. And they lie to the world.....
while SLAUGHTERING those beautiful animals.
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