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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:56 PM
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White House Strongly Defends Katrina Role
Top White House and Homeland Security officials pushed back hard on Monday against criticism of the federal government's response to Hurricane Katrina.

"I reject outright the suggestion that President Bush was anything less than fully involved," said White House homeland security adviser Frances Fragos Townsend.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he "unequivocally and strongly" rejected suggestions that his agency was preoccupied with terror threats, at the expense of preparing for natural disasters.

Both officials spoke at a conference of state emergency management directors.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/02/13/national/w131759S77.DTL
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So, if these are the results we get when he's fully involved, I'm not sure that makes me feel better...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:57 PM
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1. Total information bull-shitness!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:58 PM
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2. No Suprise Here
they will go to their graves before admiting they fucked up on anything. Unless of course Chertoff decides he wants the big bucks after he's out and writes a tell all book.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:59 PM
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3. Yeah....He Was Involved....
He was on vacation in Crawford, then he was partying with his good buddy McCain in Arizona, and finally....while he was working hard on Katrina, he was playing guitar in San Diego.

Sure, he was working on it.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:59 PM
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4. And Cheney's Hunting Buddy Ran Into Those Pellets
Face first.

He did.

It's TRUE!!!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:59 PM
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5. What role?
You have to have a role to be criticized for it.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:09 PM
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10. my thoughts exactly
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49jim Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:59 PM
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6. .....fully involved doing what
playing the guitar?
watching a CD of the event? Whew!
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:01 PM
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7. They have screwed up everything they have touched.
The incompetence is astounding. Of course they deny it, because they don't know how to do any better.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:01 PM
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8. I didn't believe them at first, but since they STRONGLY defended....
their Katrina role as opposed to merely defending it regularly, that's what did it for me.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, the facts clearly state the Brady Bunch was in control and failed miserably.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:06 PM
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9. Funny, I reject President Bush 110%. However, I believe Chertoff
when he rejects suggestions that his agency was preoccupied with terror threats. I can't think of a thing that the DHS has done since its inception except spend tax payer money on themselves.
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:27 PM
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11. "I reject outright
the suggestion that President Bush was anything less than fully involved..."

See today's Top 10, number 2:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/06/232.html
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:16 PM
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30. PICS OF BUSH'S INVOLVEMENT
'Nuff said.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:30 PM
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12. Sorry Bushies....
Katrina blew an American city back to the stone age while Bush fiddled. Buck stops with Bush.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:30 PM
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13. Only if by "fully involved" they mean "forced to take grudging notice"
1) Bush** stopped paying attention after Blanco refused to federalize the National Guard.

2) WH staff were so afraid of Dimson's reaction to being interrupted on his hobnobbing, cake-eating, guitar-strumming mission that they had to put together a DVD of Katrina news highlights to bring him up to speed on the disaster. They even drew straws to decide who'd be the unlucky one to approach His Growliness.

ALL are guilty of being more concerned with themselves than for the people who were dying on the Gulf Coast.

That's the Republican definition of "fully involved".
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:58 PM
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14. Parts of our country are still ravaged by the effects of Katrina.
The only involvement shrub had were photo ops. Empty, meaningless propaganda.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:03 PM
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15. I hate to rain on Chertoff's parade, but I personally heard the idiot
being interviewed live on NPR and he didn't even believe that people were at the Convention Center, dying in front of the cameras. He practically called the reporter on the scene live a liar. He made himself look like a total dimbo... obviously he is either a dimbo like his boss or totally evil also like his boss.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:10 PM
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16. FEMA is so 'on top of things'...
that there are some 10,700 brand new mobile homes sitting in mud at Hope, Arkansas right now...empty...while Katrina survivors are being evicted from the temporary shelter they were given.

Some half a billion worth of mobiles are, and have been, just sitting there falling apart...many double wides exposed to the elements.

There has been time enough to form mobile parks with paved streets and infrastructure to have been built and many of the survivors could have been housed. Instead, most of these mobiles will be sold as salvage eventually...for pennies on the dollar. What a waste.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:14 PM
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22. dang--wiish i had heard that one. Chertoff is a bit ticked off. Too bad
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:13 PM
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17. Too fucking little, too fucking late.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:53 PM
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18. Oh, please...
This is how engaged he was, according to this article http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/s

<snip>Sept. 19, 2005 issue - It's a standing joke among the president's top aides: who gets to deliver the bad news? Warm and hearty in public, Bush can be cold and snappish in private, and aides sometimes cringe before the displeasure of the president of the United States, or, as he is known in West Wing jargon, POTUS. The bad news on this early morning, Tuesday, Aug. 30, some 24 hours after Hurricane Katrina had ripped through New Orleans, was that the president would have to cut short his five-week vacation by a couple of days and return to Washington. The president's chief of staff, Andrew Card; his deputy chief of staff, Joe Hagin; his counselor, Dan Bartlett, and his spokesman, Scott McClellan, held a conference call to discuss the question of the president's early return and the delicate task of telling him. Hagin, it was decided, as senior aide on the ground, would do the deed.

<snip>The reality, say several aides who did not wish to be quoted because it might displease the president, did not really sink in until Thursday night. Some White House staffers were watching the evening news and thought the president needed to see the horrific reports coming out of New Orleans. Counselor Bartlett made up a DVD of the newscasts so Bush could see them in their entirety as he flew down to the Gulf Coast the next morning on Air Force One.

This is hardly the picture of a man "fully engaged". To me, it's a self-absorbed, out of touch man who didn't want to cut his precious vacation short. His aides had to prepare a DVD of newscasts, because Bush had not bothered to keep himself informed about the worst natural disaster to hit our country. And this guy is supposed to keep us safe????
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:03 PM
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19. Let it ride!
The response to Katrina was a fuck-up of colossal proportions. If the little shit was "fully involved", what does that say about his competence?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:10 PM
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20. nominated
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:13 PM
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21. gee, Townsend makes a declarative statement so all is well!!

"I reject outright the suggestion that President Bush was anything less than fully involved," said White House homeland security adviser Frances Fragos Townsend.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:16 PM
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23. "Both Townsend and Chertoff took swipes at Brown,"



...Both Townsend and Chertoff took swipes at Brown, who resigned under pressure in September as head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

"There is no place for a lone ranger in emergency management," said Chertoff, whose Department of Homeland Security is FEMA's parent agency.

Brown testified before a Senate committee last week that he issued repeated warnings to the White House and DHS the day the hurricane struck, Aug. 29, that levees had failed and New Orleans was seriously flooding.

He suggested that the White House and DHS had dragged their feet. Bush and other federal officials have said they did not know until the next day, Aug. 30, that levees had been breached.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:17 PM
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24. Townsend, at Bush's request is conducting her own "lessons learned"


...Townsend, who at Bush's request is conducting her own "lessons learned" inquiry, said her report would be released later this month.

A Senate panel is conducting a separate review due in March.

While both Chertoff and Townsend acknowledged that the federal response left much to be desired, both suggested federal officials up to Bush had been unfairly criticized.

Bush, who was traveling in Arizona and California the day the storm roared ashore, was "highly engaged" in monitoring its advance, Townsend said.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:19 PM
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25. Why isn't the press calling them on all this 'I REJECT' crap. Snotty, the
Chimp, this "official" -- will someone please notice how they've all adopted that phrase lately.

so what?

we reject your rejection!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:27 PM
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27. Chertoff hates the press as much as Cheney does.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:25 PM
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26. "Michael Chertoff "unequivocally and strongly" rejected,,,"



....Homeland Security Secretary
Michael Chertoff "unequivocally and strongly" rejected suggestions that his agency was preoccupied with terror threats at the expense of preparing for natural disasters.

Both spoke at a conference of state emergency management directors in suburban Alexandria, Va.

Their rebuttal came as a Republican-written House report blamed government-wide ineptitude for mishandling Hurricane Katrina relief. A report by Congress' investigative arm, the
Government Accountability Office, reached similar conclusions and singled out Chertoff for delays.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:10 PM
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28. "President Bush was ... fully involved"
Okay, so the buck does stop w/GW Hoover. He then accepts the blame for the debacle of knowingingly allowing people -- taxpayers, mind you -- to die.


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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:13 PM
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29. La la la....repugs don't like reality, they can't hear us...la la la...nt
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