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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 09:59 PM
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US and UK forces establish 'enduring bases' in Iraq
Despite talk of withdrawal 'when the job is done', there are signs that coalition troops will be there for the long term
The Pentagon has revealed that coalition forces are spending millions of dollars establishing at least six "enduring" bases in Iraq - raising the prospect that US and UK forces could be involved in a long-term deployment in the country. It said it assumed British troops would operate one of the bases. Almost ever since President Bush claimed an end to "major combat operations" in Iraq on 1 May 2003, debate has focused on how quickly troops could be withdrawn. The US and British governments say troops will remain in Iraq "until the job is done". Yet while the withdrawal of a substantial number of troops remains an aim, it has become increasingly clear that the Pentagon and the Ministry of Defence (MoD) are preparing to retain some forces in Iraq for the longer term.

The US currently has around 130,000 troops in Iraq; Britain has 8,000. Major Joseph Breasseale, a senior spokesman for the coalition forces' headquarters in Iraq, told The Independent on Sunday: "The current plan is to reduce the coalition footprint into six consolidation bases - four of which are US. As we move in that direction, some other bases will have to grow to facilitate the closure transfer of smaller bases." He added: "Right now, I don't have any information that tells me which nationality will comprise the remaining two bases, though my assumption is that at least one will be run by the Brits."

An MoD spokesperson said British forces were currently operating out of eight bases in southern Iraq, with a small contingent based in Baghdad, and that "discussions with coalition forces relating to future basing are still at a very early stage. Nothing has been agreed." The official added: "We have no intention of remaining, or indeed retaining bases in Iraq long-term. We will leave Iraq as soon as the democratically elected Iraqi government is confident that its security forces have the capability and capacity to counter terrorism and to preserve the security of democracy there." A senior military source recently told the IoS that some British troops could be expected to stay in Iraq in a training role for years to come.

There would be no British presence in the urban areas, however. The American and British governments say they remain in Iraq at the invitation of the interim Iraqi government, and would leave if asked to do so. The Pentagon says it has already reduced the number of US bases from 110 a year ago to a current total of around 75. But at the same time it is expanding a number of vast, highly defended bases, some in the desert away from large population areas. More than $280m (£160m) has already been spent on building up Al Asad air base, Balad air base, Camp Taji and Tallil air base, and the Bush administration has this year requested another $175m to enlarge them. These bases, which currently house more than 55,000 troops, have their own bus routes, pizza restaurants and supermarkets.


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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article355178.ece
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:02 PM
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1. We aren't going Anywhere...
Americans Wake up...
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:05 PM
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2. And the money for 'enduring bases' came from where?
Is that the money Halliburton still can't account for?

Is that the money that we were told would rebuild the very country that we destroyed?

Is that the money American taxpayers (you know, the crowd that coughed up the money in the first place) were told would fix the electrical grid, build and equip hospitals, build and staff educational institutions?

Is that the money that was meant to be poured into the Iraqi economy, used to create jobs and pay a fair wage to Iraqi citizens who were hoping for a better life for themselves and their children post-'liberation'?

Just f*ckin' wonderin' ...

(God, this TOPIC pisses me off BIG TIME)!!!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:07 PM
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3. What a surprise.
Exactly according to plan.

PNAC
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redphish Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:08 PM
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4. Here's a link from a thread I posted a while back on this subject.
Real nice pool eh. No, we ain't planning to leave anytime soon.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11072377
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:22 PM
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5. If "King George the Imbecile" attacks Iran and the Sunni's and
Shiite's band together to remove the enemy (USA) from their lands, what would the Imbecile King do? Remember, together Iran and Iraq have how many millions of people? I'd love to see it ! One million Arabs marching on those "enduring bases" with millions more on stand by. Would the King go all out and kill hundreds of thousands? Or, would King George the Imbecile pull our troops out?
Is that scenario possible?

Any feedback would be welcomed..
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redphish Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:29 PM
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6. Do you remember the story...
of the king who stood against the tide and demanded that the ocean stop, and drowned. Yeah, they're that stupid.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:37 PM
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7. red that was hysterical..(rotf) I never heard that ..thanks for the
laugh, will there be a true revolution? I mean riots and all that kind of shit. I certainly wont lay down and watch Gestapo Homeland Police storm the homes in my neighborhood. scary future ahead.

thanks again for the feedback !!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:45 PM
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8. Idiot Son has declared Iraq the 51st state
Congratulations!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:57 PM
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9. Or the Iraqi Rez? They'll at least make a claim that Iraq is a
sovereign nation....but that the Great White Father in Washington must keep soldiers on their land and make them subject to the US government in order to protect his brown-skinned children.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 12:41 AM
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10. Anyone awake in the summer of 03 knew this already, as I did. n/t
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