Biden: White House has no plan to 'win Iraq'

[sabra]

http://www.newswatch50.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=DC7C5503-BBF8-46EE-9C4C-FFCABA358731

Biden: White House has no plan to 'win Iraq'

NEW YORK (AP) - While the White House has a plan to not "totally lose" Iraq, Senator Joe Biden says the Bush administration has no plan on how to win there.

The Delaware Democrat tells CBS' "The Early Show" that the White House needs to find a way to get Sunni Arabs to buy into the new Iraqi government. As it stands now, he says there is no unity government in Baghdad, with a large part of the army and essentially the entire police force acting as "sectarian death squads."

Biden suggests one way to bring the Sunnis around could be giving them a larger slice of Iraq's oil revenues and more autonomy for Iraqi regions controlled by Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis.

[still_one]

1. biden we can NEVER WIN IRAQ

only the Iraqiis can win Iraq

The only solution now is Murtha's plan or leave the entire area

[Stargleamer]

2. This just occurred to him????

How long has this been apparent to us, that this war is unwinnable, that even if it was winnable the Bush administration is too incompetent to win it? That it was wrong in the first place?

[saigon68]

9. Joe Biden the Senator from MBNA Screws the Poor

With his New Bankruptcy Law and now this Ass-Hat Proclamation

What an idiot -- Like those of us here have not known this shit for at least 3 years

[confludemocrat]

3. Oh and he has a plan to "win"(="not totally lose")? As if... What a dick

still pushing that line that he or the other pygmy Dems like Bayh, Clinton and Kerry "can do it better". So the illegal, attrocious mess can be "won" by giving the Sunnis more money? Fuck you, asshole

[karynnj]

17. Why do you include Kerry here?

He clearly does not belong in that group. Your bias is showing.

[Strawman]

4. Good luck governing based upon lies Biden

Dr. Joe's Political Miracle Tonic. 100% guaranteed to win the war in Iraq.

And it cures common malidies such as athsma and jetlag too.

Why not just declare "war" on all unpleasant realities and perpetually assert that impending victory is around the corner? Be just as intellectually dishonest as the Republicans. After all who wants to be the next Jimmy Carter? :sarcasm:

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

5. The plan is to next nuke Iran and then

just sneak out of Baghdad in the middle of the night with their suitcases in the back of a Hummer. They'll just hope nobody notices.

[coalition_unwilling]

14. "Retreat under fire" is one of the most difficult military

maneuvers to execute, from my studies in military history. If we attack Iran, we won't be able to retreat southwards (through Shiite territory under control of Muqtada al Sadr and Badr Brigades). But retreating westward puts U.S. in heart of Sunni badlands -- not good. Likewise, retreating northward (to Turkey) means U.S. must run gauntlet from Baghdad to Kurdistan before not having to fight its way out.

[libertypirate]

6. Kinda Duh...

They don't make money if there isn't a place to break things...

It is never what is first reported, it is what becomes framed which becomes the story....

I have had a gut wrenching feeling about this for a while, watching reports being revised...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92532&mesg_id=92532

It's how 9-11 became about 19 fanatic Muslims, from 19 stripper loving, gambling, drinking, Arabs...

[VegasWolf]

7. Jeez Biden you lame DINO, there is NO win in Iraq for the US. Panderer! nt

[acmavm]

8. Wonder when what is obvious to almost everyone finally

sunk in.

[TankLV]

10. The BEST we can do is LEAVE NOW. This can never be "won", you pandering

IDIOT!

What is wrong with these people?!?!

[FreeStateDemocrat]

11. Damn straight , it is UN-WINNABLE

We can Win this one just like we won in Viet Nam. 2500 American lives and 2 Trillion (when it is finally paid for in about 75 years). We helped Iran gain a ally and lose an enemy if you call that winning we got her won.

[stepnw1f]

12. He Can't Be This Dumb... Biden. The War is Lost!

Bring the Troops home.

[Rambis]

13. I hate this statement

It is a statement that allows the dems that voted for this illegal immoral war to cover their arse. It was wrong, is wrong, always will be wrong and * lied his ass off to get us to go. That is the only message.

[Canuckistanian]

15. WRONG framing

The minute I saw this post, I knew he said the wrong thing. Iraq isn't there "to be won" or to "totally lose".

It should be painfully obvious that there shouldn't have been a war at all.

The only thing that can be done now is to gracefully retire while causing the minimum of damage.

[Zhade]

16. It can't be "won".

What an interesting way for Biden to phrase that - he could have said "no plan to end the killing", or "no plan to help stabilize the government and ensure all are treated fairly".

No, he goes right for "win". Tell me, did Biden also support "winning" in Viet Nam?

[Solly Mack]

18. Win? Win? lololololololol