Bush looks to UN for Mideast solution(Damn, the world IS coming to an end)

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. - President Bush acknowledged growing international pressure for an immediate Middle East cease-fire Monday but dismissed any idea of simply "stopping for the sake of stopping" without a plan for lasting peace.

Bush said the United States was working with allies for a United Nations Security Council resolution to get a "sustainable cease-fire, a cease-fire which will last" - but not necessarily anything immediate.

The U.S. also is seeking the authorization of an international force to help secure Lebanon. Bush told Fox News Channel that U.S. troops probably would not be deployed on the ground as a part of it, but might help with logistics or command.

"I think most nations would not see us involved, and most people understand that we're committed elsewhere," Bush said in an interview with Miami television station WPLG. "But also, however, if there's a need for some maybe logistical help or help in command-and-control, which we're good at, they may want to consider us."

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[babylonsister]

1. Sounds to me like he's distancing himself/the US from this mess.

Also sounds like he's totally clueless. Why doesn't that surprise me?

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

2. I agree. He's backing away from Israel and they may find themselves

all alone in this dog and pony show.

[Master Mahon]

3. I doubt it, He talks the talk

but he has John Bolton tell the UN to 'take a walk'.
We continue to refuse to vote for a ceasefire!

[Zhade]

8. Funny, it reads the opposite to me.

"Multinational force" - like the Coalition of the Billing?

And U.S. troops MAY NOT be part of ground forces. Riiiiight.

This actually makes me think they want to go big on this madness.

[kysrsoze]

9. Agreed. He'll just continue to rule out a cease-fire until Israel...

sufficiently angers enough Arab countries or they find some way to "pull" (real or not) Syria and Iran into it.

[sofa king]

12. I don't think he's backing off, I think he's playing for time.

When would the Bush Administration actually wish to use the United Nations to stop a war? When they don't actually want to get anything done, of course.

Handing off the problem to the UN guarantees a delay in any response to this war.

That might be because the UN is bureaucratically mired and relatively spineless, as the neocons are taught to view the UN from childbirth.

But even if that isn't the case normally, it's certainly the case here, because they have John Bolton on hand to derail any actual movement toward a ceasefire.

I firmly believe that Hezbollah is the root evil behind this whole mess. It's obvious that they have been preparing for six years to fight this war, and it's also obvious to me that they planned to fight this war in the very midst of their own citizenry, in order to use the outrage generated by civilian casualties against the Israelis.

That does not mean that I consider Israel and the United States to be innocent in this matter. Israel can be depended upon to strike back brutally and disproportionately in any border dispute, and they have done exactly so.

Here in America, like a thousand autocrats before them (no need to mention the ones they best resemble now), Bush's puppeteers are genius opportunists, if otherwise incompetent fools.

I think the Bush Administration has an interest in seeing Hezbollah temporarily de-fanged, right now. That could prevent Hezbollah and Syria from opening up a potentially divisive and distracting front against Israel this November, when I am convinced that the Bush Administration is going to invade the oil-rich Iranian provinces of Khuzestan and Bushehr.

Watch for Bolton's minions to be on hand with a handful of monkey-wrenches to throw in the works. We'll know if I'm right about the rest of it shortly after Selection Day, 2006.

[Laotra]

13. Clock is ticking

But considering the not so veiled threat from Sistani, one tick too much and Southern Iraq is in flames, the Imperial troops of Dumfukistan fooked. And then some.

[sofa king]

14. Just so.

I think that's what those fourteen permanent bases in Iraq are for. If the Shiites go ape-shit over an invasion of Iran (or for that matter, over this particular mess), the Americans now have the option to pull back into their fortresses and wait in relative safety until the insurgency turns on itself--they always do.

Skeleton forces and stooges could hold the bases and the oilfields in Iraq while the offensive power of the three-or-four divisions in Iraq could be directed toward the invasion of Iran. After the Iranian operation is concluded, they do the same thing: build still more permanent bases.

If the Iraqis further pillage their own country in the meantime, so much the better for Halliburton, which will collect billions for pretending to repair the damage.

But here's the thing: America only has maybe three or four divisions to throw around, and no proper occupation troops. If Iran can line up the Arab and Muslim world on their side by attacking Israel, instead of the invading Americans, they have a chance to forge a political bloc which might succeed in threatening Israel enough that American forces are required there. If that happens, the invasion of Iran sputters, maybe.

That's why I'm sure the Bush Administration has written a blank check out to the Israelis and will continue to run interference for them on the diplomatic stage. They're making the Iranians wager their Hezbollah chip before they have a chance to play it when it could count for something.

[Laotra]

15. Logistics

The British token force in Baghdad will be kicked out in no time, the strong US tactical reserve in Kuwait may be able to bring them to safety only badly bruised, not slaughtered. But the supply routes to north will be cut, and supplying the US bases with the tons and tons of material the high tech army needs daily only by air is a logistical no-can-do (Iran/Syria supplying SAM's making it even harder). Ground attack through hostile territory into Iran with enough troops and gear is even more logistical no-can-do, and even if US tried, to logistical build up would take several months. Kuwait and othe Gulf states with large Shia populations will also not remain friendly territory.

I believe US troops can fight their way out, easiest to Turkey (if Syria stays out), but if they remain stationary in their fortresses, they will become the redo of the Sixth army at the Stalingrad.

[KKKarl is an idiot]

4. Consultation

Why are we consulting with the UN. I thought they were no good at what they did. Don't we normally veto every resolution on Israel. Lets stop wasting time & call for a ceasefire. We told Israel not to attack Iraq in the original Gulf war. We can tell them to end this war.

[Rex]

5. 'stopping for the sake of stopping'

So Bush just admitted to being pro-war and anti-peace. Cool, now it is on record with his little dictator remark.

Hey President Fuckface, it really is worth stopping mass terrorism just for the sake of stopping. God what a dullard.

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. He probably said the same thing on 9-11

Why should he stop the attack, just for the sake of stopping the attack?

[screenplaya]

6. Jerk

Bush, Condi and Rove are not competent enough to come up with a sustainable cease-fire that could be enforced, so that won't be happening. They are good at running elections, nothing else, everthing in between is just biding time.

[hughee99]

7. * isn't in a hurry...

and if there's one group that's slow to take action on issues like this, it's the UN.

[jimshoes]

10. Sounds very much to me like

he doesn't care if the Israeli's flatten Lebanon to the ground, or if they continue flattening evey mideast country that they feel threatened by. Someone should ask the putz how he would achieve a sustainable cease fire. Run the opposition out of bullets, or is that the plan?

edsp

[VegasWolf]

11. Bush, all hat, no cattle. nt

[Vidar]

16. He & Bolton are setting up the UN to take the fall.

[MasonJar]

17. Typical Bush. We won't be helping, but we'll be there to tell

everyone else what to do.

[rodeodance]

19. Bush looks to U.N. for Mideast solution

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060731/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_mideast;_ylt=AgLHWxfah9VvdFqfimHPhIEUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3NmxuamZjBHNlYwNyaGw-

Bush looks to U.N. for Mideast solution

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 53 minutes ago

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -
President Bush acknowledged growing international pressure for an immediate Middle East cease-fire Monday but dismissed any idea of simply "stopping for the sake of stopping" without a plan for lasting peace.


Bush said the United States was working with allies for a
United Nations Security Council resolution to get a "sustainable cease-fire, a cease-fire which will last" � but not necessarily anything immediate.

The U.S. also is seeking the authorization of an international force to help secure Lebanon. Bush told Fox News Channel that U.S. troops probably would not be deployed on the ground as a part of it, but might help with logistics or command.

"I think most nations would not see us involved, and most people understand that we're committed elsewhere," Bush said in an interview with Miami television station WPLG. "But also, however, if there's a need for some maybe logistical help or help in command-and-control, which we're good at, they may want to consider us."

[Redstone]

20. Ah, but he said the UN was worthless three years ago.

Wouldn't give them the time of day.

"Flip-flopper," anyone?

Redstone

[MadMaddie]

21. Yes Indeedee....Flip Flopper...cause he has no ideas...

none of the rat bastard neocons thought that it could go so bad...so they never planned for it going bad.....

[54anickel]

28. Called them a bunch of drunks as well

From an "unrelated" article.

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,19949662-948,00.html

"The UN can't manage a damn thing," Mr Bush told Mr Downer, recalling his visit to Kosovo, where the President found the UN personnel to be "a bunch of drunks".

[mom cat]

22. He is just stalling for time to let Israel do his dirty work.

[saigon68]

27. The chimp need a few more Islamics killed by his puppets

A pox on all of them

[kenny blankenship]

23. See, I wouldn't interrupt mass murderin' jes' fur th'sake of inerruptin'

and saving some lives. I believe life...LIE-AGHHFF is too sayckred t'be trivimilized like 'at. Would I even know who wuz not gettin' killed? Nor how many? It's just numbers y'see? Don't mean nothing. Henh-hehn heh. If people got to die then people got to die--an' I know which people I like t'see die when it come down to it. Henh,hehn,heh. When y'say somethin like peace what you really talkin' about? I mean ain't it the truth that when y'say peace whatcha really mean is, "E'rebody I hate is now dead." That's what peace means to me as Preznint, the evil doers is all dead. Babble says ye shall have wars upon wars. That there's God's word to Man in the Babble. One day, all them evil doers will be raked up in a big ol' heap an' set afire. That's God's deal with Man. When them evil doers all get theirs, Jesus will bring a Reign of Love on this world and then there shall be peace. For Jesus is the God of Love.
But til then, there can't be no peace. Why would I want to go against God and try to bring a fake peace a tempornary false peace to anybody nor any country when my God forbids that to Man? Should I not be a False Prophet in that case, preaching a false peace to men that can never last? No sir I will not! I'm going to send bombs to this war--bombs, shells and bullets--and killers for hire who slay without conscience nor reasons, to kill the evil doers wheresoever Karl and Ambassador Gillerman tells me they 'at. I'm going to welcome this war and I'm going to pour JP-8 jet fuel (heavily discounted) on its flames. My eyes shall delight at the reach of the fire, upwards and onwards, higher upon higher. My heart will rejoice in the thought that this might be the Great War that Brings My Savior to judge the qiuck and the dead. I will not abort this war with a false peace and presume to obstruct My Savior's coming and His final, true and lasting Peace which is the Peace that surpasseth unnerstanding and lies beyond this fallen World and this untrue Life.

[pinto]

24. I don't pretend to understand a bit of this mish mash of an answer.

"I think most nations would not see us involved, and most people understand that we're committed elsewhere," Bush said in an interview with Miami television station WPLG. "But also, however, if there's a need for some maybe logistical help or help in command-and-control, which we're good at, they may want to consider us."

And I don't think I want to.

[Erika]

25. Does W ever say anything that makes sense?

He openly insulted the U.N. three years ago and now he is begging for their help?

It tells you who was in the wrong.

[nashville_brook]

26. that's rich.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

29. He, and those behind him

are simply trying to make the U.N. irrelevant, they have no interest in stopping the conflict, only an interest to get the U.N. out of their way.

[Erika]

31. So what do you think their end goal is in getting rid of the UN?

Republicans always have to have someone they can blame their problems on. Thanks.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

33. Oh, there's never any shortage of people to blame,

but people who get in your way; have to be dealt with.

[jaysunb]

30. Of course he is...

Stupid frat boys are always looking for someone to bail them out of their stupid actions......

[breakaleg]

32. But doesn't Bush veto every resolution the US comes up with

with respect to Israel and water down every statement they issue?

It seems to me, the UN's hands are tied because of Bush.

He wants the UN not to solve this problem, but to implement the solution he wants. He wants them to do his bidding.

[muryan]

34. The best scenario would be an immediate cease-fire

And let peacekeeping troops go in to help disarm hezzbollah, and restabilize the region.