E-mails Show Foley Sought to Rendezvous with Page

[TacticalPeek]

E-mails Show Foley Sought to Rendezvous with Page

October 02, 2006 12:14 PM

Brian Ross and Maddy Sauer Report:

Apr_mark_foley_061002_nrIn addition to explicit sexual language, former Congressman Mark Foley's Internet messages also include repeated efforts to get the underage recipient to rendezvous with him at night.

"I would drive a few miles for a hot stud like you," Foley said in one message obtained by ABC News.

The FBI says it has opened a "preliminary investigation" of Foley's e-mails. Federal law enforcement officials say attempts by Foley to meet in person could constitute the necessary evidence for a federal charge of "soliciting for sex" with a minor on the Internet.

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Maf54: I miss you lots since san diego.
Teen: ya I cant wait til dc
Maf54: :)
Teen: did you pick a night for dinner
Maf54: not yet…but likely Friday
Teen: ok…ill plan for Friday then
Maf54: that will be fun

The messages also show the teen is, at times, uncomfortable with Foley's aggressive approach.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/emails_show_fol.html

[wicket]

1. EW!!!!!

:puke:

[tridim]

2. Too bad non-DUers wont know about this

It's more important to show 50 firemen walking in a PA field.

[LizW]

3. Again, someone please explain

why this sicko is not in jail?

[Cronus Protagonist]

34. Because he's a Republican, of course

You know the modus operandi by now.

[LiberalFighter]

4. Foley's staff had to know about this.

Question is who have been part of his staff?

Currently it looks like it was

Chief of Staff:
Elizabeth Nicolson

Director of Operations:
Dean Lester

Legislative Director and Counsel:
Bradley Schreiber

Press Secretary:
Jason Kello

Who else in the past or not included in current staff in Washington?

[janx]

18. Not necessarily--

but they do now.

[LiberalFighter]

27. If pages were warned 5 years ago about Foley...

then staff would had had to known about the problem. Otherwise, they must had been ghost employees.

The only way staff members would not know about the problem is if they were totally isolated from others. For staff members to maintain their current position and to move up the line or have other openings available to them they would need to network with staff members of other House Members at a minimum.

[partylessinOhio]

5. Our local ABC TV station had a report today on Noon News which

showed tape of a former page who said the pages were warned FIVE YEARS AGO to stay away from Foley. The local reporter said this was part of Brian Ross' investigation. This is the first time I have heard that the problem went back FIVE YEARS.

[NoodleyAppendage]

6. Miss you lots since San Diego - suggests prior sexual contact.

Foley is so screwed. Federal crime...ironically one that he helped craft. Talk about karmic justice.

J

[Pachamama]

9. Yes, it does indicate prior contact...and just like these IM's/emails are

slowly being released, my guess is that the ones confirming actual contact are coming next...

A pedophile who for 5 years+ has been contacting a bunch of pages and being this "aggressive" and explicit isn't just in it for the "talk"...

My money is on the fact that Foley has actually had sexual liasions (or atleast attempt to have sexual liasions) with these adolescent pages.

My guess that these emails were leaked by parents and victims.....more to come shortly....

:popcorn:

[coalition_unwilling]

21. Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown! n/t

[calimary]

28. Indeed. Here's my take on it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2859867

[Beetwasher]

7. RED ALERT! Now Moving To The Next Level!

Indeed, this is metastasizing.

[leQ]

8. if this doesn't bring the leadership down, i dont know what will. (nt)

[demo dutch]

17. What about he rumors of a 5-year investigation?

[calimary]

10. "I miss you lots since san diego"???

WTF? What does THAT mean? That they've already had "meetings"? What happened in San Diego, anyway?

Inquiring minds want to know, after all. Certainly his former constituents deserve to know - since it was going on in their name and on their nickel.

[hunter]

12. Never underestimate "what happened in San Diego."

That's always been a pretty good rule of thumb. For all the pretty of San Diego, there is some astonishing rot. This should probably be connected to various Republican tax-dollar-to-campaign-funds money laundering schemes, if anyone here is brave enough to dig through that dumpster.

[demo dutch]

15. Maybe the page is gay too?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

19. Maybe; or maybe he's scared that

his career aspirations would go down the drain if he didn't play along.

Sexual harrassment isn't confined to heterosexuals.

[demo dutch]

26. Sure

[JoFerret]

33. This is not about being gay.

This about a closeted GOP hypocrite predator.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

36. Dollars to donuts, the thugs are more freaked

by the fact that he was preying on young males than the fact that he was preying on children.

[msmcghee]

11. Self-committment to rehab is for . .

. . sentence mitigation later. He knows he's screwed.

[Demobrat]

14. He's safe in rehab.

Can't be photographed or questioned.

[demo dutch]

16. Rehab for alcoholism treatment? what about rehab for sex criminals

[Hepburn]

35. Ummmmm....

...how about PRISON for sex criminals? Pardon the expression, but FUCK re-hab'ing Foley ~~ just get him where he cannot do any further harm to children.

This case just gets me ~~ because Foley is a Repuke, he seems to get a pass on what he has done from other members of the majority party in Congress. The man, imo, is a CRIMINAL. Jail time and mandatory reg as a convicted sex offender is too good for the bastard.

[dethl]

23. He might be in rehab

But that won't prevent any law enforcement from looking at his office and computers in the meantime.

[Demobrat]

24. But what it does prevent

is him having to show his face.

[sugapablo]

13. Again...has anyone seen DATELINE NBC...

...with Chris Hanson...the "To Catch A Predator" series? This is the same thing...EXACTLY.

Why are all those guys who chat with a decoy thrown to the ground and handcuffed and Foley is just being "investigated" (SLOWLY)?

[jberryhill]

25. You aren't going to like the answer...

Because those Dateline pieces are premised upon an initial communication with a minor that is clearly under the age of consent, and the communications unambiguously involve arranging a meeting in response to an explicit request for sex. They are also arranged in states having very clear statutes for this kind of thing.

Probable cause to arrest turns on bright distinctions in these sorts of situations.

While there's little doubt we'll see more ongoing revelations, if what you have here is a guy engaging in perverted discussions with a 16 or 17 year old and then suggesting they get together for dinner, what you do not have is a clear "solicitation for sex".

Now, don't shoot me. I'm not "defending" anyone or anything. I'm just saying that criminal laws tend to be very specific in defining conduct and circumstances that have to be satisfied.

In the excerpt above, you will notice that it is the teenager who asks "did you pick a night for dinner" - not Foley. Foley's not even the one soliciting anything in the excerpt above.

(and, no, I didn't read the whole transcript because its nauseating)

[sugapablo]

31. Are the transcripts online?

Some news people on MSNBC said they would not release them all, because they were too graphic, but they did suggest that he DID try to solicit kids for sex specifically.

[jberryhill]

32. Well that would be getting closer to a smoking gun...

...as far as any criminal statute I've looked at so far.

But here, the wrong person is asking about having a meeting, and it's for dinner.

As a step in the right direction toward prison, we need FOLEY asking a teen for a meeting for sex.

[coalition_unwilling]

20. Gives new meaning to the well-worn phrase:

"De bait on the Hill." :)

[Az_lefty]

22. This sick bastard and EVERYONE that enabled him belong in Jail!!!!

:grr:

[DesertRat]

29. k&r

[bluestateguy]

30. CLUNK

The sound of the other shoe dropping.