LAT/AP: School Gunman Did Not Molest Relatives

[DeepModem Mom]

Amish Mourn Victims of School Shootings (NOTE: The headline in the subject line is the headline on the LAT homepage.)
By MICHAEL RUBINKAM, Associated Press Writer
October 4, 2006

....Roberts revealed to his family in notes he left behind and in a phone call from inside the West Nickel Mines Amish School that he was tormented by memories of molesting two young relatives 20 years ago.

But police said Wednesday there was no evidence of any such sexual abuse. Investigators spoke to the two women Roberts named, who would have been 4 or 5 at the time, and neither recalls being sexually assaulted by Roberts.

"They were absolutely sure they had no contact with Roberts," state police Trooper Linette Quinn said....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wire/ats-ap_top10oct04,0,6346975.story

[babylonsister]

1. The guy had to have had mental problems and delusions to do

what he did. I can't think of any other explanation. He surely wasn't in his right mind.

[TroglodyteScholar]

2. I'm with you...

My wife kept saying, "This story just doesn't make sense..." Finally, I replied, "What about shooting a bunch of little girls DOES make sense? Should it make sense? This guy was simply cuckoo."

It IS hard to ignore the copycat quality of this thing.

[DemoTex]

12. X-act conversation I had with my brother in Griffin (GA) 2-nite.

Our conclusion: Why try to riddle it? You cannot, ever, figure out why he walked into that school-room, much less why he zeroed in on the little girls.

BTW: My brother's young daughter was molested by a home intruder a few years ago. The perp walked in a kangaroo court in Griffin. My BIL is a state judge in Columbus, and he was outraged by the way the trial was conducted. However, my brother's daughter is now a senior at the University of Georgia, she is on the staff of the Red & Black (campus newspaper), she has a 4.0 GPA, and she is at least as liberal as I am (and her dad, my bro).

[kestrel91316]

3. Probably an undiagnosed, untreated paranoid schizophrenic, or

some such. They can be REALLY REALLY good at concealing their delusional thoughts. I know. My mom was one.

[UpInArms]

4. ...

:hug:

[kestrel91316]

6. Thanks. And at least SHE is still alive, in assisted living, and finally o

antipsychotic meds after nearly 30 years of not getting treatment (it's against the law to force medical care on anyone, even if the reason they refuse care is because they are completely psychotic and delusional - grrrrrr).

It's sad that most of her life has been wasted. She was a nice person and a hard-working, dedicated mom and wife at one time.

[tanyev]

5. Maybe he fantasized about it?

[kestrel91316]

7. More likely he IMAGINED the 20-yrs-ago thing. Typical psychotic

delusion. They can get quite elaborate.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

15. Or maybe it was plied into his head by a sicko parent

I had a father who would hit me until I "confessed" to things I hadn't done.

[Anakin Skywalker]

8. So Not Only Was He a Murderer....

He's a LIAR too?! Jeez!

[Hope springs eternal]

9. This is exactly why...

we need more research into mental illness...sad,sad,sad.

[Marie26]

10. Paranoid schizophrenic. nt

[LostinVA]

18. That's what I was wondering when I read this n/t

[uncle ray]

11. i remember very little from when i was 5.

they may have forgotten. they may have never known what happened was wrong behavior, and just didn't remember.

[Boomer]

13. You'd be surprised at the memories that persist

I have very few, mostly vague memories of my first few years of life, and yet one particular moment from when I four years old stands out in stark contrast.

My family lived in an apartment complex filled with children, and I was always out playing with other kids. One day, though, I somehow ended up alone in the apartment of a grown man. I have no clue why I was there; the memory begins with my hearing my mother calling for me and the man whispering that I should play hide-and-seek and not answer.

Even at age four I sensed something was NOT right. I immediately pulled away and answered my mother's call, and then everything fades away again.

I wasn't molested, but the situation was clearly -- in hindsight -- a moment of high risk. And that uneasy sense of real danger evidently seared that memory into my brain even when I didn't understand what exactly I was escaping.

[SquireJons]

14. From Tin Foil Hat Land...

My guiding philosophy has always been Que Bono? (who gains). It's not always right, but it has a strong track record.

Now who could possibly benefit from the violent deaths of young girls? Who indeed.

Last week was the week from hell for the RNC. First they had to deal with the Iraq Assesment from the Pentagon that says things will get worse next year, while the administration has been saying the opposite. Then came Woodwards book and lots of MSM coverage. Then comes the confirmation that Rice was in fact warned explicitly of the sorts of attacks that happened on September 11th and apparently did nothing and actually gave Tenent the brush off. The coup de gras was Foleys outing as a sexual preditor and that senior republicans in the house both knew of it and covered it up.

All of this happened in the span of one week. So you could say that they were desperate for something dramatic to change the national discourse. Along comes a man in Colorado (red battle ground state) who forces his way into a school, kidnaps and molests a young girl and then kills her and himself. The national news reports this but stays on the other stories.

Not enough.

So then, a few days later another man, this time in Pennsylvania (slightly blue battle ground state) attacks another school, with the intention of molesting multiple young girls, then kills many of them and himself. Now that seems to have wrenched our attention away from Iraq, and the host of domestic scandals. Not for ever, but just enough. Like a reset button. Look for an all out blitz next week to take advantage of the pause.

I'm sure it's all just a coincidence. I mean it's never happened before, but it happens twice in one week right when the republicans really need it. Just lucky I guess. Kinda lucky like with Senator Wellstone's death, or the "Pearl Harbor style event" thing. I wonder how many more coincidences this country can take before it comes apart at the seams?

[fooj]

16. Mind control can do horrific things to a person...

:tinfoilhat:

Nothing is as it seems. IMO, the thing to remember is that these rat bastards have been setting up for this power grab for over 30 years.

[LostinVA]

19. What does this man's apparent mental illness have to do with GWB's cabal?

[NorthernSpy]

17. cui bono

My own personal roll of tinfoil doesn't stretch quite that far.

But yeah, it IS a very striking coincidence that two men, thousands of miles apart, were planning highly similar -- and highly unusual -- crimes at the same time. Reportedly (if I've got this right), the period of premeditation and planning for Robert's crime began before the Colorado incident hit the news; in other words, Roberts was not simply acting as a copycat.

Like they say, what are the odds?

[NorthernSpy]

20. delusional guilt...

Schizophrenics experience it.

For all we know, he might have figured that the god in his head wanted a virgin sacrifice as atonement. He bound their feet and delivered them all virgo intacta to the jealous god-of-the-voices.

(It's just a guess.)