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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 08:28 AM
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Election Bitterness Lingers for Fla. Dems
Election Bitterness Lingers for Fla. Dems
 http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-democrats-florida,1,6279267.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
 
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   By BRENDAN FARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. — Bitterness over the 2000 election that put George W. Bush in the White House by 537 votes in Florida is certain to surface this weekend when delegates to the state Democratic Party convention are courted by candidates hoping to challenge the president next year.
"It periodically may fade, but it never goes away," said Mitch Ceasar, who was the state party chairman in 2000. "That's more or less symptomatic of all the activists in Florida. They feel the election was taken from them. Political activists see it as political grand theft."
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. "You're going to see signs saying, 'Let's re-elect a Democrat to the White House in 2004,' because a lot of people feel a Democrat was elected."
The 5,000 Florida Democrats expected at the convention are eager to hear from those who could avenge the loss. Except for Al Sharpton, who is hosting "Saturday Night Live" in New York, all other Democratic presidential candidates -- eight total over two days -- will address the convention and take delegates' questions.
Three of the hopefuls -- former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, Wesley Clark and Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, Gore's running mate in 2000 -- are in a statistical tie among Democratic voters, according to a poll conducted by a Democratic and a Republican pollster for The Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times. Among all voters, however, Bush was their choice when matched against any Democrat.
Knowing the 2000 election energizes Democrats, Republicans are holding training sessions for party activists throughout Florida and emphasizing the need for a high turnout next year. They also are reminding campaign organizers that nearly all 97,421 votes cast for Ralph Nader, the Green Party candidate, would have gone to Gore had Nader not run. More...
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 10:22 AM
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1. Add to that the 70,000 disenfranchised voters who
were not allowed back on for Jebbie's race two years later; Florida should be a lock if we insist on fairness.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 10:25 AM
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2. Yeah thanks to deal made with NAACP.
n/t
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 10:55 AM
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3. I could be wrong... but
I think the deal was "struck"... only AFTER the Dept of Justice "reviewed" charges and cleared Florida of wrong doing. That is, Ashcroft's gang cleared the state so there was little leverage left to force correcting the problem. Ashcroft, who once used his authority in Missouri to fight desegregation, and who allegedly taught within his home that Martin Luther King Jr was a 'communist', oversaw a complete defanging of the issue. Yet, while standing before confirmation he swore that his personal views (far right/religious right/ racist right - remember his connections to the Southern "gentile" modern version of the KKK), would not interfere with upholding the laws of the land. How many times has he disproven that oath?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:02 AM
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4. You're NOT wrong at all. In fact, you're 100% correct...
...and I would add that Ashcroft managed to get the polls shut down early in Missouri while thousands of people (in pro-Dem polling areas), still stood in line.

Florida and Missouri weren't the only states where "irregularities" took place...Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, and others saw their share as well.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 01:02 PM
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5. 97,421 votes cast for Ralph Nader, would have gone to Gore
Edited on Sat Dec-06-03 01:03 PM by Mountainman
"They also are reminding campaign organizers that nearly all 97,421 votes cast for Ralph Nader, the Green Party candidate, would have gone to Gore had Nader not run."

What does this say about a third party candidate? If true it says that Gore would have been President if Nadar hadn't run. Could it be any clearer? Even the repugs get it.

God I hope to hell he doesn't do it again.

Hey Ralf there really is a difference between the Dems and the fascist Repugs!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 01:50 PM
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6. repugs get it, but greens don't
that f***ing asshole nader is gonna do it again
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