Burns: President keeping war plan quiet ("Shhh, its a secret!")

[brooklynite]

HELENA, Mont. - Sen. Conrad Burns says he believes President Bush has a plan to win the war in Iraq but is keeping it quiet, a statement Democrats pounced on Wednesday as reminiscent of comments made during another divisive war.

Burns, at a debate Tuesday night with Democratic challenger Jon Tester, said he believes Bush has a plan to win — but added: "we're not going to tell you what our plan is."

Burns, who has said repeatedly the country must stay in Iraq as long as it takes to win the war, also seemed to suggest a new path may be needed in Iraq. He pointed to fellow Republican Sen. John Warner of Virginia, who has recently called for a new strategy in Iraq.

...snip...

Democrats likened Burns' comments to statements by President Nixon that led to news reports that he had a "secret plan" to end or win the war in Vietnam. Like Nixon, Burns never used the word "secret" but made it clear it wasn't in the president's or the country's interest to discuss any plans he has for winning the war.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061018/ap_on_el_se/burns_war_plan_2

Ya know...I think that "secret plan to win the war" line works better when the other party started the war in the first place...

[dubyaD40web]

1. Bush's silence

is killing our troops.

[elehhhhna]

26. DAMN IT YOU JUST REVEALED THE PLAN!

[HereSince1628]

2. It worked for one president about to be impeached, why not another?

Stay the course Burnsy, you were doing so well when you were cussing at fire fighters.

:rofl:

[calimary]

3. What the fuck is this? Double-Secret Probation or something?

What a fuckwad. DAMN I hope Montana voters do the proper thing!

It'd be good for them to remind people like him that he works for THEM. And he's ANSWERABLE TO THEM. It's NOT the other way around.

[ClassWarrior]

5. Germany?

Let him go. He's on a roll.

B-)

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

4. Good. Now whenever they say the Dems have no plan, we can laugh...

...in their faces and say we just don't want to give away secrets to the ter'rists.

NGU.

[NastyRiffraff]

6. They never had a plan...

And still don't. Moreover, this bunch WANTS the horrible situation in Iraq to continue, so they can keep trying to scare the American people with "Terra! Terra! Terra!"

If Bush DOES have a "secret plan" why isn't he using it to save some lives? Answer: there is no "plan." They don't even want a plan that could work.

But, given that a large percentage of the public disapproves of the Iraq war, they have to say (not do!) something.

[whistle]

7. In 1968 Richard Nixon said he had a plan to end the Vietnam War

...but it was a secret. He got elected and the war continued for seven years more costing tens of thousands of American lives, billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of Southeast asians killed and disabled for life. In the end, Nixon threw in the towel, resigned the presidency in disgrace in August 1974, Gerald Ford took office as president declared victory for the U.S. policy and Nixon Doctrine called "Vietnamization", so the democratic controlled congress voted to withhold all further support of the war in December 1974, turned the running of the war over to the South Vietnamese military and withdrew all U.S. support. South Vietnam fell to the communist North in less than than four months after that officially ending on April 30, 1975.

Bush is repeating the same republican bullshit, except it is not going to be that simple in Iraq, nor the rest of the middle east and North Korea.

[coalition_unwilling]

18. Nixon's "secret plan" to end the war in Vietnam actually

meant expanding the war to Cambodia and Laos (nominally neutral before Nixon's invasion and occupation).

Bush's "secret plan" to win in Iraq probably features expanding the war to Iran and/or Syria. QED.

[AndyTiedye]

31. Nixon's "Secret Plan" Was to NUKE Hanoi. Really!

Fortunately, his advisors realized that this would start World War III, and it didn't happen.

[teryang]

8. If he had any plan then why did he say this?

If the generals in the field have any suggestions, then we'd be willing to consider them, or words to that effect. This comment was on all the news channels within the last 48 hours.

The only plan is to balkanize the middle east. It the same strategy used against Russia and Yugoslavia. It continues to be used against Russia, Iraq, and Iran today. It facilitates the armaments industry, the drug trade, supports western banking interests, and serves to control world access to energy.

[rodeodance]

9. you mean Bush will not tell the Repugs what his 'plans'ARE?

[Megahurtz]

10. Worst President EVER....

Worst Administration EVER....

Worst Political Party EVER....

This Country is rotting away because of these people.
They care nothing about others (except the wealthy)
which of course is for their own personal selfish gain after all.....

The most selfish politaical Party EVER......

I guess I should just get to the point where nothing shocks me anymore.:shrug:

[rodeodance]

11. the families of the dead outhgt to storm the WH and Demand

to know what this plan is-------

[Beaverhausen]

20. exactly. letting soldiers die while they wait to implement the "plan"

is beyond comprehension. I don't understand why we aren't storming the White House gates.

:cry:

[Shakespeare]

12. More and more, they're starting to sound like cartoonish Bond villains.

Or, a parody of a Bond villain, somebody on the ineptness scale of, say, Dr. Evil.

[geardaddy]

30. But Bond villains always give up their plans to Bond

out of sheer self-importance. These others are too stupid to have a plan.

[gratuitous]

13. Why is it a secret?

They don't want the terrorists to know what's coming? I think the terrorists have pretty well sized up the ruling class of the United States and found them to be quite wanting. The insurgents in Iraq? Aren't these the folks we ostensibly invaded the country to liberate? The Democrats? The American people? Who isn't allowed to know what the plan is, if not the people paying for the war?

This is nonsensical bordering on the hysteric. If so many people weren't dying every day, there would be an almost comic aspect to this. As it is, our military is killing and dying to no purpose, and we're pouring buckets full of money down this rathole, all the while lowering our prestige in the world community, damaging our reputation perhaps beyond repair, and losing any pretense to credibility.

Thank you, Mr. Burns; thank you, Republicans.

[coalition_unwilling]

19. NEWS FLASH: We've already LOST in Iraq. It's way too late

for any "plan" (secret or otherwise) to secure any reasonable strategic objectives (which is what I think "winning" means in this case).

The stench of death and defeat hangs over the entire Operation Iraqi Freedom.

[grasswire]

14. that's what I said ---- NIXON

The secret plan to win the war should be repudiated by every red-blooded American as a campaign strategy.

NO MORE SECRET WAR PLANS!!

No more!

[ramapo]

15. There's "Light at the end of the tunnel" too n/t

[tanyev]

16. A secret plan, huh. Next thing you know we'll find out they're

taking advice from Kissinger. Oh, wait....

[Up2Late]

17. This whole thing reminds me so much of "Dr. Strangelove: Or How I..."

...The full title is: "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" (1964)

By that I mean this the scene in the War Room, when they were talking about the formerly secret "Dooms Day machine" the Soviet Ambassador just told them about:

Dr. Strangelove: Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?

Ambassador de Sadesky: It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.

<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/quotes>

[BigDDem]

21. The plan is so secret

they cant tell the military.

[sugapablo]

25. Beat me to it. n/t

[wicket]

22. Whatever happened to "trust, but verify"?

:eyes:

[ginnyinWI]

23. thanks for the laugh out loud!

Why does history have to repeat itself so soon? You would think they thought nobody tried this during the Vietnam War.

He's like Elmer Fudd: "Shh! Be vewwy vewey quiet! We have a secret plan to win the war!! Wouldn't want to tell you and spoil the surprise! "


Like they wouldn't tell us now and try to gin up support and votes before the election. :rofl:

[formercia]

24. He would tell us but FEDEX says

it won't be here until tomorrow and Kissinger refuses to tell him what it is over the phone.

[NOLADEM]

27. BWAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH AH HAHA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAA

WHEW, HA HA HA, WHEW...

That shit is FUUUUU-NNY. Holy shit.

Secret plan. Where have I heard that before? Oh man, my eyes are watering.


What a fucking moron.

Secret plan.

Jesus, what an ass.

I wonder if bombing Iran is his secret plan.

[AlCzervik]

28. is this going to be the Nixon plan? What decade am i living though?

i'm tired.

[rodeodance]

29. what an idiotic thing for a Sen. to say!

[DoYouEverWonder]

32. Yes my lord I've got a plan

A cunning plan.

[bamacrat]

33. WOW its sad people like this are making our laws.