Lawmakers call for Bush impeachment, NM

[Rose Siding]

SANTA FE (AP) -- Two New Mexico lawmakers have introduced a measure calling on Congress to impeach President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

State Sens. John Grubesic of Santa Fe and Gerald Ortiz y Pino of Albuquerque, both Democrats, said the resolution is a serious effort to try to trigger impeachment proceedings.
...
The measure alleges that Bush and Cheney conspired with others to intentionally mislead Congress and the public about the threat posed by Iraq in order to justify the war. It also cites the administration's warrantless wiretapping program and alleges the torture of prisoners and the denial of constitutional rights to enemy combatants.
...
Grubesic told the crowd that by introducing the resolution, ''we created a ripple. Your voice is going to turn it into a tidal wave, hopefully.''

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/KTVKLNews20070124_impeach_bush_cheney.16dd6d3a.html

[Jcrowley]

1. K&R n/t

[CountAllVotes]

2. Pleased to be #5

:kick: & recommend! :dem:

[54anickel]

3. Hmmm, did they catch Rosie on the tele or something? n/t

[Rose Siding]

5. That was really good, but no-

The state Democratic Party, at a meeting in March, adopted a call for Bush's impeachment as part of its platform. Party chairman John Wertheim said at the time it stemmed from ''perceived abuses of power and corruption in the Bush administration.''

[LearnedHand]

4. And one more from Ortiz y Pino's district!

Way to go, Jerry.

[Kurovski]

6. I simply cannot get enough of this story.

K&R.

[texpatriot2004]

7. Oh please, oh please, oh please let them succeed in this effort

Go New Mexico!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

8. I hope it's contagious n/t

[uppityperson]

9. k&r

[Pastiche423]

10. Can I get another ripple?

We needs more ripples!

[puebloknot]

11. K&R'ing from Santa Fe. Hope springs!

[calimary]

12. Damn! WHY can't I recommend this more than once?

It needs - oh, let's see - maybe 250 MILLION recommendations.

As Jim Webb said last night in the Democratic Response (well, kinda): if they don't, we will be showing them the way. And the VOTERS shall lead.

[proust78]

13. Bring it On!

Impeach everybody in line above Pelosi.

[disndat]

69. Yeees!

Nancy Pelosi, POTUS.

[Erika]

14. It's about time

Yes!

[intheflow]

15. Happy to kick this for the morning crowd.

And recommend it, too. :kick:

[DrRang]

16. Kicking it from Los Lunas, NM.

[Lost4words]

17. Kick& R from Central NM

8643

[bdamomma]

18. THIS SHOULD SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE

LET ALL STATES INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION OF IMPEACHMENT.

[Pacifist Patriot]

22. I thought the same thing when RI and one or two other states...

started sword rattling over a year or so ago. I sure hope it catches this time.

[redqueen]

19. YES!

How has this taken so long?

Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob! We've had to wait too long, far too long...

[bpeale]

20. K&R from Las Cruces

YEA!!!!!!!!

[pdrichards114]

21. This is the beginning. Now it gets interesting!! K&R

[puebloknot]

23. New Jersey is also working on their own...

...impeachment bill under the Jefferson Manual.

I've learned that these bills from a state legislature do not *compel* the House to act, and they can table the bill if they choose (although under certain circumstances, they have to allow one hour of debate on the House floor before doing so), but if they keep getting these bills from more than one state legislature, they're going to have to hold a finger to the wind and weigh the political consequences of ignoring We the People!

I'm proud of New Mexico for stepping up to the plate!

[puebloknot]

24. Oh, and California is working on it too! Any others...

...that anyone knows about?

[orleans]

49. illinois introduced this in april 2006--but i don't know what has

happened with. did it get tossed out of the house right away?

here is an article about it:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0604/S00294.htm

on edit: and one of the sponsors has now passed a bill for OPRAH WINFREY WEEK
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=7&GAID=9&DocTypeID=HJR&LegId=27106&SessionID=51&GA=95

(yeah, but what the hell happened with the impeachment eddie washington?)

[rosesaylavee]

55. Thanks for posting.

I too was wondering whatever happened to this. Perhaps Hasturd tabled it? :shrug:

[WinstonSmith4740]

25. This is beyond great...

But isn't it ridiculous that its taking this to get this impeachment ball rolling? I mean, c'mon folks, what exactly did they have to do to get Congress to take the iniative. Either they're still too scared of being called "partisan" by a crippled right wing, or Nancy is shrewder than I thought. Maybe she was waiting for "the people" to force the issue, so it wouldn't be seen as "Revenge of the Democrats". In fact, that's what I'm going with...;)

[duhneece]

26. K & R from Otero County, NM (south-central)

I'll call my 80 yr old very conservative representative, Dub Williams...

[Pawel K]

27. K&R From Albuquerque

I am proud to be from New Mexico right now.

[volstork]

28. I may have to move

to NM! :applause:

[PhilipShore]

29. I agree 100%

Because of the Abramoff scandal -- Bush should be be impeached and the Republicans should resign from Congress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff

[AllyCat]

40. Or the fact that they stole the election (link)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x259013

There are so many offenses, I don't know where we'd even start.

[goforit]

30. The ring heard around the world. Let it ring!!

[darkstar7646]

31. Does this actually do anything???

Unlike city resolutions like in San Francisco (at least twice!)... If the actual legislature were to pass this, would this force Congress' hand?

[LibinMo]

32. K & R

[bonito]

33. 56 and counting

:bounce:

[fNord]

34. kicked, don't have enough posts to recommend, would if could n/t

[The Wielding Truth]

35. Is Nancy ready to be the first woman POTUS?

[Imagevision]

36. Bush & Cheney how much longer will they continue to dis the american people??

Cheney today still says we're making continued progress in the war on Iraq??

How many 100's of thousands of Iraqi's have died since they had their elections?
Just in 10/06 3600+ Iraqi civilians were killed that's ONE month!!

[originalpckelly]

37. This is on the AP, I don't recall the other resolutions making the AP...

I think this might go more places. Papers may choose to print this, and that means millions of people will see it.

[citygal]

38. Please, please, please IMPEACH both Pres and VP Now!

At least get the ball rolling. I would think 60 in the Senate would not be impossible, considering all the Repuke hopefuls for '08. Morons.

[Steely_Dan]

39. Graduated from NMMI...Roswell

...god I miss NM.

-P

[mvd]

41. A locally spreading drive could eventually go national

A big thanks to them from me!

[Boondog]

42. OK, rant time from a yes man

Had enough of this insanity. Torture? Suspension of habeas corpus and all other measures for reliability of evidence for conviction of crimes? Guantanamo? Lies? Illegal domestic wiretaps? Deaths of hundreds of humans every day, day after day, that don't even get a headline? Treason? War as an answer? Concerted efforts that clearly will destroy the US military, the US economy, countless US families? Whoring, blind-ass, money-grubbing shit-for-brains media? Torture, for fucks sake??? GENOCIDE? Stop them now. They talk about worst case scenarios. They are the realization of the worst case scenario over and over and over and over and over and over. I'm so fucking tired of hearing about their worst case scenarios. They can't begin to imagine worst case scenarios. I have had enough education in worst case scenario. Stop It Now. I hate yes-manning anybody, but I'm tired of thinking that standing on the bridge on Tuesday nights, or in the park on Saturday with a new clever sign that just maybe will convince one more person, will keep me morally clean, or do more than put me on record protesting this insanity (no criticism, big supporter of all of you on the bridge, just fed up again and again). Stop them now, elected "leaders." Or, as Dick says, go fuck yourselves.

We're all dirty, we're all covered up with the awful shit these people have done and keep doing. Imagine a time when the money starts running out. Imagine a time when the chickens really do come home to roost in the US. Imagine 9/11 x 200. Imagine you were a human being living in Baghdad, or Al Anbar. It's not so remote. We have met the terrorists, and they is us.

[mvd]

44. Welcome to DU!

:toast:

[Boondog]

45. Thanks

Been around a long time, just never know quite what to say. Here I expose my frustration and anger and offer not a whole lot more. But thanks for the welcome.

[mvd]

46. That's fine - I think your post is great

DU is definitely a venue where we can express our frustrations along with other Democrats who feel the same way.

[Boondog]

50. Thanks again, and

it's kind of self indulgent to drop the f-bomb on a public forum. I don't think we can immediately expect anyone in the MT legislature to follow suit, though. Too busy gloating over (and going money-crazy in-fucking-sane over) a budget surplus fueled by real estate speculation pricing houses in western MT out of any un-rich person's possible budget. With a guy running the senate education committee who says he thinks education of k-kids is over-rated (Schweitzer put him there - look it up) and "they should spend more time with their parents" rather than going to school (good god, let's reduce things to their most inane level, somehow akin to the cutting insight of the comment from Tony Snow that "this would make Osama bin Laden happy", no?) ... And coal gassification... And ethanol from herbicide and fertilizer fed subsidized farms that cost more petrol than just burning the fucking gas... Though I have hopes for a few. Momentum is important with pols. I just think about junior high to give myself a frame of reference. Good for these NM humans, though.

[danhan]

48. Boondog..

Been around awhile myself but don't post too much.

I understand your frustration and two things you said jumped out at me.

I think it was "We're all covered in this shit." and "imagine 9/11 x 200"

Mostly the latter, but both thoughts from your original post here scare the crap out of me. The first because it is true and we are waisting time fighting eachother while the second is probably already being set in motion.

May we all get our shit together!!

[Boondog]

51. I know, I know, I know, and ain't it something that...

the short-sightedness of our soundbite society misses so much (I don't exempt myself from this world completely), and is so criminally negligent, in examining REAL worst case scenarios and through fear accepts the notion that escalating violence will somehow lead to something better? Tunnel-vision driven through fear.

[Norrin Radd]

47. Nice rant,

lurker ;) and welcome back to posting!

[Boondog]

52. Thanks. I might just have to take the lid off...

of this monumental can of whoop-ass I've got bottled up inside me.

[Norrin Radd]

53. By all means, give us something good to read.

[Change has come]

43. K&R

:kick: Way to go New Mexico!

[rambler_american]

54. Oh, if there is a god...

but if there is I have to ask how * got to be president in the first place. Still. if there is an impeachment I'd be inclined to let bygones be bygones and go back to church.

:kick: from Newbury, NH

[A Simple Game]

58. You are assuming that a God must be good?

Not much into God(s) myself, but there are a lot of written stories about God(s) doing bad things to people.

Gee, don't you ever watch Zena and Hercules reruns?

[fNord]

65. for an answer to your question RA,

check out michale moore's "Dude Wheres My Country," particularly chapter six, "Jesus W. Christ"

at least it would be good for a laugh


:rofl:

[Name removed]

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[focusfan]

57. do you think congress has heard everyone screaming

for impeachment?

[deepthought42]

59. Oh please please please...

Yes, a ripple. On the day of STFU speech, I put my "Impeach *" button on my purse. Even if this should not happen (and I believe it should happen, otherwise, what is the point of having it, if not for this?), we need to apply some serious pressure to this administration. We cannot allow them to get away unscathed. And we need to show Congress that we are serious about this.

[JacksonWest]

60. Rock on.

[hyde]

61. God please let there be a tidal wave!

Two years is too long! Chimpeach!

[emc]

62. new mexico call for impeachment

I moved from the backwoods of this country (washington DC) to
a progressive state--years ago--New Mexico

we have two things going for us right now---the first drive
for impeachment and Bill Richardson--

How many of you can state that your Governor comes to your
town on a regular basis to discuss what your people need, and
does it on a one on one basis---This guy is terrific---best
politician ever met--

PS--Hope Bush never comes back, and hope Heather Wilson moves
in with George, they deserve each other.

[missTheBigDog]

63. God, I only wish...

Why did Nancy come out from the start saying that impeachment was off the table??

[fNord]

66. she is afraid it will make a loud thud "when" (if?) it doesn't pass n/t

[Megahurtz]

64. Better Hurry,

before those:crazy: Maniacs start World War III.:scared:

[Maryland Liberal]

67. So what happens

If it is referred to the Judicary Committee??? - and who decides if it will be referred? I hope Pelosi isnt the referral decsion maker. FREE John Conyers!

[maryallen]

68. Thank you, New Mexico!!

Glad to see that there are at least two brave Patriots left in America ...

[vietnam_war_vet]

70. Two more kudos from Las Cruces - actually, Mesilla ;-)

My university professor spouse and I have been following this development in the local paper -- in particular, via a political columnist named Heath Haussamen (http://haussamen.blogspot.com/). We SO-OOOOO hope that this will snowball and lead to the deserved impeachment of Shrub and Deadeye Dick. It would be a good start....then go after Rumsfeld, Condi, Rove, Wolfie, and the rest of the PNAC wingnuts. -- Michael & Dr. Kat