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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:03 PM
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AP Bush administration seeks $245B for wars

not much a story yet:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bush_war_funding;_ylt=ApqmGf4wsvMZCZ3PatdhRlOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Bush administration seeks $245B for wars

10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration will request $100 billion in additional funding for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan this year and another $145 billion for 2008, a senior administration official says.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:07 PM
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1. And seeks to cut 70B from medicare.
And continue corrupt tax giveaways to the filthy rich.

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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:09 PM
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2. Congress, tell them NO!
n/t
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:09 PM
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3. Now will we see just how much 'spine' our Democratic congress has... n/t
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:41 PM
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14. They have the courage to stand up....and mock the public, and deliver for
the president and the military-industrial complex.
Thanks for nothin, Congress.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:09 PM
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4. which cult of christianity
does * belong to that serves the Prince of War and seeks to harm the poor? his judgment day should be interesting...........
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:27 PM
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10. Obviously you've missed the recent revelations. The American
Jesus is no longer The Prince of Peace, but The God of War, and He doesn't give squat about the poor, only rich Republicans.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:00 PM
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16. thanks for clearing that up.
i'm always missing the update memos from the big guy. ..............
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:10 PM
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5. Hell NO!!!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:11 PM
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6. Classic response to request:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:14 PM
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7. American people ask Congress to prosecute Bu*h Administration
for war crimes, treason, and crimes against humanity.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:17 PM
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8. What exactly is the $440 billion annual DoD budget for?
Golf courses for the brass can't cost that much.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:42 PM
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15. ....Bowing to pressure from Congress, the administration will also break


.......Bowing to pressure from Congress, the administration will also break down the $145 billion request for next year into detailed form.

For 2009, the White House assumes spending will be down to $50 billion, with no funding planned beyond then in hopes the war in Iraq will have wound down.

Bush has said his five-year plan will bring a balanced budget by 2012, but the claim has met with some skepticism from Democrats since the White House has declined to forecast long-term war costs.

"If we're successful carrying out the president's current policy, we would hope that we'd begin to have less of a financial commitment even in this fiscal year," said the senior administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the budget won't be unveiled until Monday. "This is our best guess."

The spiraling war spending — up from $120 billion approved by Congress for 2006 — is largely to replace equipment destroyed in combat or worn out in harsh conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:21 PM
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9. What Are They Crazy...... With Everything Coming Down On Them They Still Have ....
the cajones to ask for this much money.

Dems win in November - take back Congress
Libby Trial - pointing to treason at the highest levels
Non-binding - bipartisan - resolution against the surge
Latest NIE report
Big anti-war march in DC and around the country on Jan 27th
Calls for impeachment of both * and Cheney
etc, etc, etc

And they can look at us with a straight face and ask for $245B?

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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:28 PM
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11. Bankers do it all the time.
Remembering the S & L mess in the 80's and how the banking community played fast and loose with the rules because us poor slobs would be left holding the bag. All the while acting like pillars of society. Doesn't suprise me in the least that the neocons still have their hands out. They'll be begging until they no longer exist in the political world.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:30 PM
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12. Watch most democrats vote Yes, yes, yes to that, while pretending to oppose the war.
Same old, same old... Nothing but Puny opposition!


Frederick Douglass, former slave, extraordinary speaker and writer, wrote in his Rochester newspaper the North Star, January 21, 1848, of "the present disgraceful, cruel, and iniquitous war with our sister republic. Mexico seems a doomed victim to Anglo Saxon cupidity and love of dominion." Douglass was scornful of the unwillingness of opponents of the war to take real action (even the abolitionists kept paying their taxes):

The determination of our slaveholding President to prosecute the war, and the probability of his success in wringing from the people men and money to carry it on, is made evident, rather than doubtful, by the puny opposition arrayed against him. No politician of any considerable distinction or eminence seems willing to hazard his popularity with his party ... by an open and unqualified disapprobation of the war. None seem willing to take their stand for peace at all risks; and all seem willing that the war should be carried on, in some form or other.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:31 PM
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13. Drum sez: fuck that! nt
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:04 PM
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17. kick
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:10 PM
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18. Well screw that!
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:13 PM
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19. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
This is turning into one expensive FUBAR.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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20. MSNBC: Bush admin seeks $245 Billion for wars (This HAS to stop!)
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 02:20 PM by Danieljay
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16944672/

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration will ask for another $100 billion for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan this year and seek $145 billion for 2008, a senior administration official said Friday.

The additional request for the current year includes $93.4 billion for the Pentagon - on top of $70 billion approved by Congress in September - and is about $6 billion less than the Pentagon's request to the White House budget office.



This makes me sick to my stomach. We will have spent nearly 700 BILLION by 2008 for death and destruction.

http://costofwar.com/index.html
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BrokenBeyondRepair Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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21. it will stop when we da ppl decide enough is enough and revolt..
not holding breath

:banghead:
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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22. Slam Democrats who vote for $145B for 2008
What a way to shortcut meaningful debate and withdrawal.
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Jacklyn75 Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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23. OMG! I just read that at Yahoo and was going to link it!!
That's just unbelievable!!! There is NO way he should get that!!!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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24. Up the top tax rate to 45% to pay for this
that will get Bush's attention.

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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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27. Up the top tax rate to 90% (on annual income above 1 million/year) - n/t
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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25. He should ask the Halliburton BOD for it
don't ya think?
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polvo Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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26. And who provides Congress with money?
We are quick to blame Congress for funding this war, even as we continue to give them our money. There is way for us to stop this war.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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28. Time for a fucking WAR TAX
Every red blooded I-gots-me-a-stomach-fer-fightin' ain't-gonna-cut-'n-run patriotic yeller ribbon Republic should pay taxes to fund this war.

and make it a Flat Tax too.

If they really want to support this war, they should pay for it.

Don't tax the unborn!!!1111
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:55 PM
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29. but, wait till we take both houses of congress........
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 03:44 PM by spanone
now or never imho
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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30. Bush Administration Seeks $245B For Wars (Medicare Cuts)
Bush administration seeks $245B for wars By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer
6 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - The Bush administration will ask for another $100 billion for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan this year and seek $145 billion for 2008, a senior administration official said Friday.

The requests Monday, to accompany President Bush's budget for the 2008 fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, would bring the total appropriations for 2007 to about $170 billion, with a decline the following year.

The additional request for the current year includes $93.4 billion for the Pentagon — on top of $70 billion approved by Congress in September — and is about $6 billion less than the Pentagon's request to the White House budget office.

Separately, White House Budget Director Rob Portman said Bush's budget submission also contains about a 1 percentage point cut in the rapid growth in Medicare, squeezing about $66 billion in savings from the popular federal health care program for the elderly over five years.

The Medicare cost cuts would curb payments to health care providers such as hospitals, and would require additional higher-income recipients to pay greater premiums.

<<more>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070202/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_budget;_ylt=AuwAUvIJPlpvPtPIJccQjG2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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31. I really wish we'd stop letting these bastards loot our treasury
:grr:

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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32. I Guess This Is How The Elderly Are Supposed To Sacrifice
through their medical care.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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39. Since Billo's viewers are all elderly people
I wonder how they're reacting to the medicare cuts in this bill their hero, Billo, is likely to trumpet to make the case for his buddy Bush.

Rp
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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33. Well, you can't expect ExxonMobil to shoulder the burden!
I mean, those poor fellows barely made $39 billion in profits last year! Have a heart. And besides, it's about fucking time those lazy-ass Medicare recipients started paying for this war that they're profiting so handsomely from. Those lucky ducks get to go to military funerals for their kids and grandkids, and people make a big fuss over them while they're weeping for their lost relatives.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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34. Yeah, cut Medicare just as boomers hit 60.
That should be popular. By the time we're eligible, it won't exist at all.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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38. That Is Part Of The Neocon Plan
They do not consider health an entitlement(read human right).
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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40. Me either. I consider it a national security necessity.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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35. Breaking: Shrub Wants $100B More For War Costs!!!
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 02:08 PM by RiverStone

Bush Wants $100B More For War Costs

CBS News
WASHINGTON, Feb. 2, 2007
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(AP) The Bush administration will ask for another $100 billion for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq and Afghanistan this year and seek $145 billion for 2008, a senior administration official said Friday.

The requests Monday, to accompany President Bush's budget for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, would bring the total appropriations for 2007 to about $170 billion, with a slight decline the following year.

The additional request for the current year includes $93.4 billion for the Pentagon — on top of $70 billion approved by Congress in September — and is about $6 billion less than the Pentagon's request to the White House budget office.

Bowing to pressure from Congress, the administration will also break down the $145 billion request for next year into detailed form.

For 2009, the White House assumes spending will be down to $50 billion, with no funding planned beyond then in hopes the war in Iraq will have wound down.

Mr. Bush has said his five-year plan will bring a balanced budget by 2012, but the claim has met with some skepticism from Democrats since the White House has declined to forecast long-term war costs.

"If we're successful carrying out the president's current policy, we would hope that we'd begin to have less of a financial commitment even in this fiscal year," said the senior administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the budget won't be unveiled until Monday. "This is our best guess."

The spiraling increases in war spending — up from $120 billion approved by Congress for 2006 — are largely to replace equipment destroyed in combat or worn out in harsh conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Iraq requests are certain to face scrutiny by the Democratic-controlled Congress, which is debating whether to try to block Mr. Bush's request to increase troop levels in Iraq to quell the burgeoning violence in Baghdad.

War critics also say the Pentagon is using war funding requests to modernize the armed services with weaponry — such as the next-generation Joint Strike Fighters or the controversial V-22 tilt-rotor aircraft — unlikely to see action in Iraq or Afghanistan.

The Administration defends such acquisitions since the Joint Strike Fighter would replace F-16s lost in Iraq, and there are no assembly lines open for the 30-year-old airplanes.

The additional budget request for Iraq is far below ambitious lists assembled by the service branches, who were given a green light last fall by Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, who instructed the four military services that they could add projects connected to the broader fight against terrorism. Critics said that could be interpreted to cover almost anything.

Those lists were met with resistance in the White House and on Capitol Hill, and the Pentagon pared them back in the request it forwarded to the White House's Office of Management and Budget, which trimmed them further.

The war costs come on top of a record request for the Defense Department's core budget, which is expected to reach about $480 billion in 2008.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/02/iraq/printable2426640.shtml
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:56 PM
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36. BushAmerica: A toxic Millitary/Industrial Dump
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 07:10 PM
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41. (Reuters) -Bush seeks $100 billion for wars in 2007


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070202/ts_nm/iraq_bush_budget_dc;_ylt=AoX0PzO.rQxTsZj5UOB2UZKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-

Bush seeks $100 billion for wars in 2007

By Caren Bohan 1 hour, 10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will ask Congress for $99.7 billion for the
Iraq and Afghanistan wars for rest of fiscal year 2007 and more than $145 billion for fiscal year 2008, a Bush administration official said on Friday.

The administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also said that Bush would estimate the costs for the Iraq war at $50 billion for fiscal year 2009. Bush will unveil those numbers when he presents his annual budget to Congress on Monday.

Bush is seeking $145.2 billion in 2008, including $141 billion for the
Department of Defense with additional funds sought for the State Department and other agencies for war-related costs.

The nearly $100 billion the Bush administration will request for 2007 is less than the Defense Department had initially requested.

That money comes on top of $70 billion that Congress approved for the current fiscal year, adding up to a total of $170 billion and making it the most expensive year yet for the war.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 07:10 PM
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42. ...will be submitted to Congress in the form of two emergency budget "supplementals,"


......The administration also has been under pressure from lawmakers to provide more details about its spending plans for the unpopular Iraq war.

Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the administration has funded it primarily through emergency spending bills.

Many lawmakers want that practice stopped and have demanded that Bush incorporate the war requests into the regular budget for the sake of transparency, with some referring to the emergency bills as a "shadow" budget.

The funding requests for Iraq and Afghanistan will be submitted to Congress in the form of two emergency budget "supplementals," one for 2007 and another 2008. But the administration will try meet the concerns of its critics by providing a lot of details about its spending plans in the budget documents.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 07:10 PM
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43. With such a huge deficit
Where in Hell will we get the money for all this insanity?
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 07:10 PM
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44. A hundred billion!!!
How many zeroes is that?

$100,000,000,000.00

Jesus H. Christ.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 07:10 PM
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45. you dupe thread'ed yourself ...
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Miss Marmelstein Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 07:10 PM
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46. If it's not in the annual budget.....
the Congress should not even consider it! NO MORE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGETS!
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 08:14 PM
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47. On the brighter side, the budget will be balanced by 2012!
At least 28% will believe that BS.
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BrokenBeyondRepair Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 08:15 PM
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48. was expecting a link to the onion
JFC
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