Breaking: A Los Angeles judge orders the body of Anna Nicole Smith to be preserved

[Fran Kubelik]

pending a February 20 hearing on the paternity dispute surrounding her five-month-old daughter, lawyer says.

Link as soon as I can find one. This came in a CNN email.

Link: http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/09/smith.dies/index.html

HOLLYWOOD, Florida (CNN) -- With an autopsy ongoing, a California judge ruled Anna Nicole Smith could not be buried until at least February 20, when a hearing will be held to resolve a paternity dispute over Smith\'s 5-month-old daughter.

The ruling came as new information surfaced about Smith\'s last days, during which she fell ill, according to sources.

Investigators began an autopsy Friday to help determine the cause of Smith\'s death, according to the Broward County medical examiner\'s office.

There was no indication how long the autopsy would take, but the office said it would hold a news conference later Friday to discuss the preliminary results.

[mzmolly]

1. Her death is as crazy as her life it would appear.

Sheesh.

[Fran Kubelik]

4. The greek tragedy continues.

I swear you cannot make this stuff up. It\'s too bizarre.

[mzmolly]

6. I thought of that analogy recently myself.

:hi:

[saigon68]

56. Maybe they could stuff her and put her on display Like Jeremy Bentham

Bit About the Fate of Jeremy Bentham (life: 1748-1832;
stuffed corpse on display: 1832-present)

[Missy M]

2. Why would they preserve and hold the body?...

the DNA has to come from the child. This is getting ghoulish.

[bmbmd]

3. I guess if you are in the hunt for a billion dollars

you would like to make sure of the maternity, also. Not inconceivable that it was a contrived pregnancy and a surrogate mom. Still would be her heir, though.

[BayCityProgressive]

5. Her lawyer/pimp

is gonna be in a lot of trouble. They found drugs in her room perscribed to him. I truly believe he was keeping both her and her son drugged to control them and get to the money.

[Missy M]

7. Do you mean Howard K. Stern or her lawyer, I believe its Rale.

[BayCityProgressive]

8. Stern, her husband

[Missy M]

9. You make a good point...

you would have thought he would try to get her off the drugs instead of supplying them. I'm not sure I believe he's the father of the baby but I could be wrong.

[BayCityProgressive]

13. well that is assuming he actually cared about her

he knew from her past she would be easy to use, so he figured why not keep her under his control to keep the cash rolling in and get some booty at the same time. There is already a gay couple in the Bahamas charging that he administered the drugs to her son.

[Megahurtz]

25. I've Been Wondering About That Guy.

And they were never even married (I think?)

[Howardx]

41. non binding "commitment ceremony"

is what i heard

[zonkers]

11. He reeks of sleazeballness

[Strelnikov_]

19. Det. Andy Sipowicz would be rubbing his scalp,

making his partners life miserable and liking the 'boyfriend' on this one.

[olddad56]

33. Andy Sipowicz could solve any case in only one hour.

[Bunny]

44. Oh yeah. Andy would be all over Howard K Stern, like stink on shit.

[LiberalFighter]

38. Wait until we find out if the doctor actually prescribed them to ANS

They mentioned sometimes they will prescribe the drugs under a different name to protect their privacy.

[redirish28]

15. To prove she is the mother...

When the state gets involved they test both parents to make sure the child belongs to the mother as well as the father.

[Missy M]

20. I read their concern is the child could be switched.

I think there is no doubt she had the baby.

[murielm99]

37. There are some different rules that apply

when one of the parents is deceased. The deceased is not able to give consent, so they test some closely related people.

There is an ongoing case in my community. The father might be a soldier who died after returning from Iraq. The mother is known. The soldier's parents want to know paternity, but the mother is not cooperating. She has been ordered by the courts to provide DNA. But they cannot use the deceased soldiers DNA directly, because of his inability to consent.

I am sorry for Anna Nicole Smith. I think it is time to fold the circus tent and douse the lights. With money and sex involved, that will be hard for our media to resist.

[Spangle]

42. That doesn't sound right

Otherwise they wouldn't be able to dig up people who died long ago, to prove that certain people are 'connected' to them. Instead, they get premission from known desendents of the person.

So it must be a 'rule' that is different, depending on where a person is. Or at least, where the body is, etc.

edited to add..
However, it sounds like the case your dealing with came up after the guy died. In the Smith case, the judge already orded testing and Smith's side was delaying it. The paternity testing I've seen done, both parents and the child's blood was drawn. Even if it was court ordered.

So courts CAN force a person to 'give up' the evidence. Why couldn't courts force DEAD people to give up the evidence?

[murielm99]

51. I know the young man's family.

He was a friend of my son's. He committed suicide rather than go back for a second tour in Iraq.

His family is devastated. And the girl said she was pregnant with the dead soldier's child. She said it when he was alive, and told him that it was his. She only backed off that story after he died. It is possible that the child is someone else's.

His parents would like to know if they have a grandchild. They are concerned for her welfare, and would like to see her grow up if she is their family member. Also, the child could be entitled to some military benefits. The mother would be crazy to deny her child those benefits if the baby is entitled to them.

The mother is screwed up. I don't know why. She has very solid parents, and a responsible brother who is married. The brother was also a friend of this soldier. Small towns weave tangled webs.

No one is trying to deny this girl the right to raise her child. But I do think the family of the dead soldier has a right to know. They took the mother to court to get the DNA tests. They told my son about this, and about the DNA laws. Since he is dead, he cannot give consent. His parents cannot give consent for him, because he was of legal age when he died. The DNA has to come from his parents, from the mother and her baby. That is all I know at this time.

[Hekate]

58. Oh gods that's sad. As a grandma myself it would devastate me to lose my child & grandchild both

For the child's sake I hope its mother gets her act together. She may have chosen the "best dad prospect" to tell about her pregnancy -- who then died, ending her hopes of starting a life with him and providing a good father for her child.

If that's the case, she's now stuck with untangling a falsehood to people who really hope she told the truth about there being a part of their son who lives on.

Hekate

[Spangle]

43. To make sure the child IS the child in question.

The child is only 6 months old right now. Do YOU know what the child looks like? How many people do? The markers from the Mother is used to ensure that it's the child in question. THEN the males is used to see IF he is the father.

Sadly, with this child.. there might be a list of persons who might be able to apply for that role. She even claimed that Thompson was the father when he was trying to keep him from evicting her from the house in the Bahamas last fall.

[soothsayer]

49. 2 reasons: so they can be sure they are testing the dna of her

child (and there's not some switcheroo being pulled, say, but howard k stern, and in case they need to prove murder or something. always bugs me when people rush to cremate a body when there are suspicious circumstances.

[alarimer]

55. You need the DNA of the mother too

I think that must be why but I can't figure why just a sample wouldn't do.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. No problem there.

She had it embalmed while she was still using it.

[RebelOne]

12. Here's the link

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/09/smith.dies/index.html

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. Someone more worthy of attention and affection has passed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solveig_Dommartin

And please pardon my grotesquerie, but won't ANS's plastic surgery modifications preserve her body on their own?

[BayCityProgressive]

16. thank the lord

Jesus has sent us Saint Peter from above to tell us who is worthy of mourning! Thank you lord for this miracle!

[Fran Kubelik]

17. You should start a thread about that

I didn\'t mean to imply that I thought Anna Nicole was the second coming by posting news in LBN.

[LibDemAlways]

27. Off topic but I like your user name. Fan of

"The Apartment"?

[Fran Kubelik]

29. You guessed it!

[jobycom]

22. That's sad, too. Though I hated Wings of Desire.

I liked her.

You should be ashamed of yourself for implying there's a competition, though. You probably won't, but you should be.

[soothsayer]

50. How can you hate Wings of Desire? best depiction of angels

and free will EVER...!

[jobycom]

52. The only relevant depiction of free will in that film

would have been me walking away from it before the thirtieth hour or so. Most pretentious, rambling nonsense. The premise was cool, but the execution was lacking. It was like someone had a short story, and tried to stretch it into a film by just grabbing random lines of poetry out of random books. Reminded me of reading an undergrad term paper where the student ran out of something to say after the first paragraph, and just BSed for ten more pages.

It was pretty, though. The actors and the settings were good. That script, though... ARGH!

[jobycom]

23. deleted

Forgot what month I'm in.

[hippiechick]

30. I had the same thought ...

"... won't ANS's plastic surgery modifications preserve her body on their own..."


:shrug:

[Dora]

31. Try telling that to Anna Nicole's mother.

You're neither an arbiter of the worth of human life, nor are you funny.

[Fran Kubelik]

32. well said

[Divine Discontent]

18. yeesh!

sorta looking bad for HK Stern, eh?!

[spinbaby]

21. They can store her with James Brown's body

Maybe they can set up some kind of storage facility for unburied celebrities.

[olddad56]

35. Then James would be singing "I feel good, I knew that I would".

[rocktivity]

24. I don't see the fathers sticking around much longer

now that the billionarie's money is pretty much bye-bye. Nontheless, this should be done. Come to think of it, why wasn't this done five months ago?

:shrug:
rocknation

[DUgosh]

26. Are they putting her in James Brown's living room too

[merci_me]

28. ZsaZsa Gabor's husband...............

Prince someone or other is now claiming paternity.

Better some nice compassionate maid would take the baby home and hide her and raise her in peace.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/09/D8N6CCQ01.html

[Raine]

46. This whole thing just gets

weirder and weirder! :wow:

[Hekate]

59. That man is scum. At his press conference he all but called that poor woman...

...a whore who would spread her legs for anyone. He was almost that graphic in the picture he painted of her -- "it could be any of twenty men!" and he just wouldn't shut up.

The so-called prince is certainly no gentleman.

We all know ANS was no saint, but her body's hardly even cold yet and there's a motherless baby out there whose only value to such men seems to be that she inherits millions of dollars.

Hekate

[HuffleClaw]

34. like walt disney?

[spinbaby]

36. That's an urban legend

He's buried at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, California.

[slackmaster]

39. Dibs on the pituitary!

:nuke:

[Show_Me _The_Truth]

40. Why is this here?

Who really cares what happens to her? Sad that she died, but come on, LBN material?

[Raine]

47. Same reason stuff

like this is in LBN "Brain Waves Can Read People's Intentions" ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2724185&mesg_id=2724185

:shrug:

[Fran Kubelik]

48. Sorry, I thought since CNN thought it was news...

[Raine]

53. That's reason enough...

some people here are just "purists" and get a 'tude if it's not something they consider earthshaking. :shrug:

By the way WELCOME to DU! :hi:

[Fran Kubelik]

61. thanks!

[scarface2004]

45. take her to a taxidermist!

she d make a nice trophy!

[jazzjunkysue]

54. Let's have her and James Brown stuffed and put on display at

the Neverland Ranch. And charge admission.

This is why the circus has died: You get the side shows on TV for free, now.

[goforit]

57. Thats OK! It may be Bush's fault. On an island with Kenneth Lay.

[sweetheart]

60. build her a pyramid