‘US fabricating evidence against Iran’

[TexasLawyer]

‘US fabricating evidence against Iran’
Web posted at: 2/11/2007 1:40:48
Source ::: Agencies

Washington • The United States is trying to fabricate Iran’s involvement in attacks on US troops in Iraq, Iran’s ambassador to the United Nations said in a radio interview aired on Friday.

Javad Zarif told National Public Radio’s “All Things Considered” program that Iran has “no interest” in providing weapons to any insurgent group in Iraq.

“But the problem is that the United States has decided on a policy and is trying to find or fabricate evidence if it cannot find one — and I believe it hasn’t been able to find an evidence — in order to substantiate and corroborate that policy,” Zarif said.

American officials say Iran is fanning violence in Iraq by giving technology and other support to Shi’ite groups. US Defence Secretary Robert Gates said there was some evidence Iran was the source of technology for a type of sophisticated road-side bomb.

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[Skink]

1. The admin and the media is making it sound like Iran started it when infact

the militias are just being good capitalists and looking for some rogue country to buy weapons from.
Do we ever turn down a chance to sell weapons?

[Strelnikov_]

10. Pretty much Juan Cole's take on it

Informed Comment
Sunday, February 11, 2007
http://www.juancole.com

It is far more likely that corrupt arms merchants are selling and smuggling these things than that there is direct government- to- militia transfer. It is possible that small Badr Corps stockpiles were shared or sold. That wouldn't have been Iran's fault.

Some large proportion of US troops being killed in Iraq are being killed with bullets and weapons supplied by Washington to the Iraqi army, which are then sold by desperate or greedy Iraqi soldiers on the black market. This problem of US/Iraqi government arms getting into the hands of the Sunni Arab guerrillas is far more significant and pressing than whatever arms smugglers bring in from Iran.

. . .


The attempt to blame these US deaths on Iran is in my view a black psy-ops operation. The claim is framed as though this was a matter of direct Iranian government transfer to the deadliest guerrillas. In fact, the most fractious Shiites are the ones who hate Iran the most. If 25 percent of US troops are being killed and wounded by explosively formed projectiles, then someone should look into who is giving those EFPs to Sunni Arab guerrillas. It isn't Iran.

Finally, it is obvious that if Iran did not exist, US troops would still be being blown up in large numbers. Sunni guerrillas in al-Anbar and West Baghdad are responsible for most of the deaths. The Bush administration's talent for blaming everyone but itself for its own screw-ups is on clear display here.

[caligirl]

2. Like anyone would believe the Bush admin. now? I trust the Iranians more at this point.

[Vidar]

7. Sad, but oh so true.

[Nihil]

18. Sadly ...

... it's not just the 30% of morons in the USA who vote for dimshit who still believe
but it's the "trusted" (traitors) in the opposition parties who go along with this
shit and persuade others to "give them the benefit of the doubt" despite having
completely f*cked up their previous "benefit of the doubt".

Even this board is infected with people who think that Iran should be bombed or even
invaded (in the dumbest cases) so yes, people ARE dumb enough to believe Bush's lies.

[Morgana LaFey]

20. Well, there seem to be a bunch of people in D.C. who do -- and

some of them have D's behind their names. :grr:

[saigon68]

22. The heads of Halliburton are Jumpng for Joy

At the Billions more they are about to make

[oblivious]

3. The US has killed Saddam, installed an Iran-friendly govt and bankrupted itself.

What reason has Iran to want to fiddle with American attempts to make all of Iran's wildest dreams come true?

[teryang]

13. We're in a hole, let's keep digging! Let' s send more diggers!

Greatest strategic blunder in 100 years. No solution but to make it worse. We'll get their oil, I know we will!

[file83]

25. Diggers digging there own graves...n/t

[EndElectoral]

4. Problem is when you lie, we now don't know what to believe...They've lost credibility

[WillParkinson]

5. LIES!

The United States would NEVER do that!

:sarcasm:

[BenDavid]

6. This is where the Democrats in

Congress should begin being the damn grizzleys and demand the evidence. Seems like when one asks the administration it is always, " the information is classified"...The democrats need to force the issue and let it be known there will be no damn attack on Iran and if there is then repercussions will soon follow...and if that means impeachment the so be it because the American people have had their fill of being lied too by the bushit administration and so many of the media....Time to "pump up the volume".

[Vidar]

8. Well said.

[MrPrax]

9. Good point...

but that would assume that the lying is ONLY contained to the White House at this point and doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that the Democrats were elected to open a third front -- maybe that's why they were allowed to win this last election and not the other two.

The democratic system in the US hasn't, if you noticed, impacted these plans one little bit in spite of the election of another party; a party that pledged to the War President that he wouldn't be mired in impeachment hearings while conducting another war; a party that maybe was needed to ensured continuity of the Administrations' appointments; top Presidential aspirants using the campaign season as cover to promote the Bush Iran War plan knowing that they would gain much more 'perspective' in the media than say dedicated democrats, etc etc.

I get the feeling that the elites in the US want to attack Iran and they really don't care what the American people think...there are non-partisan forces afoot that want the public to believe that there is hope.

[durtee librul]

11. Well said, Mr. Prax

I couldn't agree more....there is a lotta hooing and hawing going on, but nothing anyone can sink their teeth into since the new 'empowered' Congress has taken over. Lip service. No action.

This cabal is set on starting WWIII and if we don't stop them now, it will be. The clowns that are there now are nothing but yes men, except Feingold and now Webb......

Every one of them needs to come home and STAY home and let's put some new faces up there - lets' face it, they can't mess it up anymore than the current crop has.

[oblivious]

16. I don't know why more people can't see that. It's just so obvious to me.

[ohio2007]

12. Problem is that "knowledge is power"

And if there truely is knowledge of Iranian weapons traced via the serial #'s and labels to middle men with link's to an "Olly North" in the mullahs closet,
does anybody think such information would be released to the public?
Hell no,
knowledge is power and nobody will share unless it remains behind closed doors as has been the policy these past eight years.

[ShortnFiery]

14. "knowledge is power" and increased "warmongering is insane" n/t

[Ghost Dog]

15. k&rd for objectivity. n/t

[caligirl]

17. an AP article by Steven Hurst appeared in the SFChron. today doing just this.

Keep this article kicked for wider disimination. The administration is doing act two scene two of how to keep the war going until '08. Scene one was arresting the Iranians inside Iraq.

article here:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/11/international/i122225S29.DTL

[Barrett808]

21. "We know more than we can show"

"We know more than we can show," said one of the senior officials, when pressed for tangible evidence that the EFPs were made in Iran.

Right!

[EndElectoral]

19. Let me understand..is the media saying the Iranian government is responsible for this?

[0rganism]

23. funny thing is, there could be plenty of real, credible evidence and no one would believe it

JUST BECAUSE IT COMES FROM THE BUSH CREW.

For some reason, the lack of a cry-worthy wolf in Iraq has led to extreme skepticism at the decrying of further wolves in Iran.

[file83]

24. What's the point anyway?

Iran sells weapons. The U.S. sells weapons. China sells weapons.

Everyone sells weapons. Does that mean we should attack every nation that is in the business of selling weapons?

[TexasLawyer]

26. US provoking Iran: Report

US provoking Iran: Report
Web posted at: 2/12/2007 1:31:29
Source ::: AFP

new york • White House officials are taunting Iran into an action the United States could use as an excuse for an attack, a former security official told Newsweek, the magazine reported yesterday.

“They intend to be as provocative as possible and make the Iranians do something (the United States) would be forced to retaliate for,” Hillary Mann, former director for Iran and Persian Gulf Affairs at the National Security Council, which reports to the White House, told the New York newsweekly.

Earlier yesterday, Bush administration officials in Baghdad claimed that Iranian-built bombs smuggled into Iraq had killed at least 170 US and allied soldiers since June 2004. US officials also claim Iran is enriching uranium to make nuclear bombs, while the Islamic Republic claims the nuclear fuel will make electricity.

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[superconnected]

27. It's true. But the truth doesn't matter. The bush junta will have their war.

Haliburton, Bechtel, United defense and the rest of them will have their contracts.

Blood will be all over iran like it is in iraq. Thats the bush way.