House GOP leaders slam Dems' Iraq resolution, say it will 'deny success in Iraq'

[sabra]

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/02/house-gop-leaders-slam-dems-iraq.html

House GOP leaders slam Dems' Iraq resolution, say it will 'deny success in Iraq'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As the House Democratic leadership opened a three day floor debate on a non-binding resolution condemning the Iraq troop increase Tuesday, Republican leaders sharply criticized the measure and warned of the larger effects of withdrawing from the region too early.

"The Democrat resolution to deny success in Iraq is the first step for them to cut funding for our troops in harm's way," Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas said in a GOP press conference. "They won't tell you that but that's what it is."

In the same press conference, House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio asserted that the U.S.would leave "chaos in our wake" if it withdraws from Iraq prematurely.

"You look what happened when we pulled out of Vietnam," Boehner said. "Look what happened when we pulled out of Lebanon. Look what happened in the early 90's when we pulled out of Somalia. We left chaos in our wake. That chaos has come back to haunt us. And if we pull out ofIraq that chaos will haunt us once again."

[Prophet 451]

1. Playing the blame game

The only way to have any sort of success in Iraq now is to get the hell out. It's possible that if the invasion/occupation had been done right since the beginning, this could have been avoided but it wasn't and it hasn't. Whatever happens now, civil war is either inevitible or in progress (depending on how you define the term). US involvement will not affect that except perhaps to make it worse. When three groups of people are determined to kill each other, best not to get in the way.

This? This is blame shifting. Anyone with half a brain knows that victory is now impossible in Iraq, knows that an eventual pullout is unavoidable. This is just an attempt to pre-emptively shift the blame onto "liberals" ("we could have won if the liberals hadn't undermined us" kind of thing), same way as they're been trying to do with Vietnam for years.

[grytpype]

2. The GOP wants the Dems to cut the war funding so the Dems will take the blame for losing the war.

Pure and simple. The GOP is hoping the Dems will save them from their failure in Iraq by taking responsibility for the war at the last second. We should not do it. Absolutely not. Reid and Pelosi are smart enough not to fall for that.

[izzie]

3. I just heard Boehner. He is sure into fighting a war on an idea.

I can all most see where he comes from from the way he talks. One thing they put apples and oranges together and they pick up the story where they want to start it to fit their ends. For 1000 years ago these same people were around doing this and I guess their will always be people who think they can blow a belief off the face of the world with enough guns. Odd as once the idea is out nothing takes it back even if it was a bad one to start with. It will stay in the mind of men some place and some way for ever. I think you face it and learn how to handle it not just blow it up which does not get rid of it.Can I watch this for 3 days? I am not sure.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[C_U_L8R]

4. GOP is in denial

They have no idea how to win or even
how to define what winning is.
This whole misadventure in Iraq is a
big fat republican clusterfuck
and they refuse to own it.

Iraq is a republican mistake
and THEY need to fix it.

[Mrs. Ted Nancy]

6. I don't think it is denial.

Pure desparation.

I think that they know that the situation in Iraq is so precarious that they are willing to say anything to avoid responsibility.

For the repubs to imply that there is no chaos now in Iraq and is beyond contempt.

They have blood on their hands and no amount of partisan posturing is going to get rid of it.

[Red1]

5. Strategy

The idea that the American people will "blame" the democrats for losing the war, by cutting funding, is pure rightwing bull sh*t.

The majority of the American people recognize iraq is lost to the ongoing civil war and that staying will only cost more lives with no gain.

The question now is whether the libs in power have the kahoontas to follow up with the voters preferences. Get out, now.

red1

[Sadie5]

7. Johnson is nothing short of a

brain dead Texan. Like a robot * winds them up and they mimic his talking points of the day.

[Zenlitened]

8. What utter fools. And that's the 'Pukes with "redeeming" qualities.

Sam Johnson, on the other hand, is lower than pond scum.

Democratic leaders have said over and over again that they WILL NOT CUT FUNDING FOR TROOPS IN HARM'S WAY. Yet here's this Texas blowhard standing up and lying about the Dem's intentions. Disgusting.

These people -- and there are plenty like Johnson in the GOP -- have not a shred of decency or honor about them. What filth.

Pelosi should demand an apology. :grr:

[spanone]

9. Is that why we haven't won in the last four years? Utter bullshit.

[gratuitous]

10. Precisely

See, the reason we haven't "won" in Iraq up until now was because of the looming specter of a Democratic majority in the House. As long as that was a possibility, we couldn't possibly win the war in Iraq, however you want to define that. And now that that horrible possibility has, against all odds and the herculean efforts of stalwart men like Tom DeLay, come to pass, it's a sure bet that we will never, ever win in Iraq.

It is to weep for the dashed dreams of American empire.

[last_texas_dem]

11. Here we go again...

>>"The Democrat resolution to deny success in Iraq is the first step for them to cut funding for our troops in harm's way," Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas said in a GOP press conference. "They won't tell you that but that's what it is.">>

Go fuck yourself, Mr. Johnson; you and all the McCarthy-wannabes in your party who pretend you don't understand how to speak proper English.

[MasonJar]

12. Let's see if my memory has survived 4 months. No one on the

Puc side gave a flying whoopee what the dems thought. Sorry, boys, turn about is fair play.

[brentspeak]

13. Yeah, like success in Iraq is just around the corner...

Sarcasm.

Baghdad isn't too far already from resembling Stalingrad.

[Rydz777]

14. It's impossible

It's impossible to "deny success" when Bush can't even define it. (Maybe he can't even spell it."