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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:44 AM
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Peru and the USA in Joint War Maneuvers
Peru and the USA in Joint War Maneuvers

Lima, Feb 13 (Prensa Latina) Peru and the USA staged war maneuvers from thenorthern air base in Chiclayo region with 13 planes and 350 US soldiers.

The practice includes since Monday parachute drops and mock battle between US F16 planes, Peruvian MIG 29 s patented in Russia and French Mirage.

The chief of the Air base 6 from Chiclayo, coronel Jorge Briceño confirmed a air mock battle and 24 flying operations for 4 days between 40 Peruvian pilots and 20 from the US.

The war game envisages air vigilance exercises, airborne operations, troop recovery and command and control operations, reported the US embassy.

The drills will continue in Lima between Friday and Sunday at Las Palmas air base.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:00 AM
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1. Who the hell is Peru planning to attack? Is this just a way to display the toys we sold them? n/t
n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:56 AM
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2. Warning "insurgents" and the like would be my guess.
In other words, the proposed "threat" would be internal, not external. The ruler of Peru sits uneasily on the throne, and is one of the few good-buddies we have left down there.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:50 PM
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3. Garcia is a corrupt populist - theft & not right wing causes are his thing - he'll help
with the drug war, but it was the other fellow that destroyed human rights as he fought the shinng path folks.

My daughter just got back from Peru (vacation) and found the place happy and calm and basic needs of the poor being taken care of by the state.

Man - I really do not understand politics in this world.

Maybe it is all drug war show and tell time.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:04 PM
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4. Creepy, isn't it? The recently released news underscores Alan Garcia's
creepy past:
Last Updated: Saturday, 10 February 2007, 02:56 GMT
Peru leader quizzed over killings

Peruvian President Alan Garcia has denied political responsibility for the killing of dozens of prisoners during a jail riot more than two decades ago.

Over 100 suspected leftist guerrillas died at El Fronton island prison near the capital, Lima, after marines were sent to put down their uprising.

The killings happened in 1986, during Mr Garcia's first term in office.
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But a lawyer for the victims' families, Carlos Rivera, said evidence showed that political and legal responsibility for the inmates' deaths lay with Mr Garcia and other top officials.

And, says the BBC's Dan Collyns in Lima, some of the military chiefs involved in the operation say the president was given regular updates on the events at the prison.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6349029.stm

another article on the subject, also at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2726231

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I know you remember how well Humala Ollanta was doing in the Presidential campaign, really generating interest, with people feeling he would win, espcially after he won the first round of Presidential voting, in the multiple candidate election, and how he was suddenly attacked by a massive right-wing smear campaign at a strategic time which didn't allow his organization to fight back properly. So typical.

I'm sure you're right on this: intimidation of the local masses with a of Bush military support for Alan Garcia's government, like a warning.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:00 PM
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5. human rights scandals - Garcia not stopping prisonor killing, Humala doing torture - any true?
There have been some accusations that Humala participated in torture while fighting the Shining Path, under the nom de guerre "El Capitan Carlos" ("Captain Carlos"), while he was the commander of a military base in the jungle region of Madre Mia from 1992 to 1993.

I can not follow Peruvian politics because I can't judge credibility of the flame throwers.

Both guys have a claim to populist/progressive labels.

Humala has the far left family members, so maybe he is the "left" and Garcia the "right"?

I just can't follow since businesses - my best indicator usually - seem to support both guys.

Is it drug trade, the drug tax, and corruption that makes one on the right? If so, Garcia seems a bit more "right" than Humala.

I still do not understand leading in the polls in April only to lose in July - the election sounds like one of ours.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:29 PM
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6. It has been wierd there, for sure. I want to find out what the outcome was
of the dustup on Ollanta Humala, also. It completely faded away after the election, at least any thing which got into the press here.

Actually, there was a LOT of anti-Humala flame-throwing going on from the occupied White House. They REALLY didn't want him to win, and he was smeared wildly.

I think the "populist" label is something the a-hole Garcia invented for himself. What a wreck!

Oh, yes, before I go: the right-wing press seized on Humala's mother and brother especially, as they are completely off-the-wall, and the candidate made public statements that he stands at a distance from them in matters of individual concern, and would absolutely be unable to be influenced by them. That was the desperation of the right-wing media to destroy him, once it was realized the right-wing candidate was going down the dumper, and wouldn't be winning the election.

Glad you brought these ideas up. I want to be reminded to take time to start looking to see what happened to that campaign they were running against Humala, myself, when I get some time to look. Thanks.
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twiceshy Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:21 PM
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10. This may seem simplistic....
I'm married to a Peruvian woman of Spanish and Basque decent. Much of Peruvian politics can be understood as the ongoing tension and class warfare between those of European decent, who make up the bulk of the Upper Middle and Wealthy classes and the "Cholo" population of indigenous and "mixed-race" people. The stratification and outright bigotry was a real eye opener for me and something I would never of imagined.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:17 PM
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11. Thanks for the background, twiceshy. As you've noticed, we don't get enough
REAL information on Latin America in the U.S. It is overwhelming when you really look back down the road at just how little attention the U.S. media has paid to any part of Central and South America, almost to the point you hardly know they're there, if you read only what they're offering, which is usually designed to mold public perceptiom against varous leaders they want to remove. We usually don't hear much about those of whom they approve.

They've been almost completely silent about Peru, haven't they? Very odd, considering how much has really been happening there.
Welcome to D.U.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:06 AM
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7. Peru: Peruvian Congress will solicit the arrest of former First Lady Eliane Karp
Peru | 15 February, 2007 < 05:53 >
Peru: Peruvian Congress will solicit the arrest of former First Lady Eliane Karp



Eliane Karp & Alejandro Toledo on the campaign trail before Toledo was elected president.

© LIP
(LIP-jl) -- An investigative commission from the Peruvian Congress announced that it will solicit an arrest warrant for former Peruvian First Lady, Elaine Karp, after she failed to appear before Peruvian authorities in two separate cases.

The President of congressional commission, Isaac Serna, informed journalists that his organization would send a formal request to the Peru's Judiciary today, and that it would be the reviewing judge who decides if the warrant should be forwarded to the International Police (Interpol).

The decision to ask for Karp's arrest was made after she failed to appear before Peruvian authorites on three separate occasions.

Through consular channels, Karp made it known that she would appear to face charges of corruption which she allegedly made while she headed the now defunct Peruvian National Council of Andean, Amazonian, and Afroperuvian People (CONAPA).
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http://www.livinginperu.com/news/3195

http://img.24horas.com.pe/2006/07/wld_bush25,0.jpg

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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:52 AM
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8. what are they going to do- invade Machu Pichu?
Peru doesn't have oil, right? So what do they have that BushCo wants?

Just random thoughts.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:25 PM
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9. This is the country that did such a great job of fighting terra
By cutting off all human rights. Though they did have a much worse problem with terra than the US ever had or ever will have. But that doesn't stop * from eyeing their wonderful system! :sarcasm:
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