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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:23 AM
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Chavez sends Brazil sulfur for "devil" Bush visit (Reuters)
(I just love this guy. He has Bolas Enormes!)

Chavez sends Brazil sulfur for "devil" Bush visit


Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:42pm ET138

AYACUCHO BLOCK 6, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who mocked George W. Bush as the devil in a U.N. speech, said on Wednesday he was sending sulfur to Brazil for the U.S. president's visit there next month.

During a tour of an oil reserve with his Argentine counterpart Nestor Kirchner, Chavez held up a small vial of the pale-yellow element and said he would send to their fellow leftist ally and Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.

Echoing his mock complaint last year at the U.N. General assembly that the podium reeked of the substance after a Bush speech, Chavez said, "It smells of sulfur here, comrade."

"I am going to send this vial to Lula for when the little gentleman comes so that he can place it out there in Brasilia," Chavez said with a laugh....

(more at link) <http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2007-02-22T034207Z_01_N21343563_RTRUKOC_0_US-VENEZUELA-USA-BRAZIL.xml>
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Big Pappa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:27 AM
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1. Here we go again.
:popcorn:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:01 AM
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2. "More dangerous than a monkey with a razor blade".
Best. Line. Ever.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:20 AM
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3. Excellent. Chavez has a way of embarrassing bush that nobody else has perfected.
It's fucking delicious.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:45 PM
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18. Chevez gets a bit to cocky at times.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:46 AM
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4. Did you ever see this photo?
I think it was taken at a summit in Monterrey, Mexico. Bush was trying to walk past without his shoes squeaking, no doubt.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:18 AM
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6. Why didn't he stop and give Hugo a shoulder massage?
I will be so glad when we eventually have an Elected President, who we can be proud of, again.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:32 AM
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8. Ha! Only works on small, more easily intimidated people, right?
He probably took a safe bet she wasn't going to leap up and smack him senseless!





I don't think a country's leader, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME could look more pathetic than this guy. It's a real shame.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:44 PM
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21. Did anyone ever ask him about that?
...from the Media?

Two things I'd like someone to ask Bush:
1) Why did you do nothing when told by Andy Card that we were under attack on 9/11?
2) Why did you massage the shoulders of the German Chancellor?

I would really like to know...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:00 PM
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17. "Right foot, left foot, right foot . ."
lol
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:48 AM
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5. The South Americans are so not buying U.S. "manifest destiny" any more.
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 04:55 AM by Peace Patriot
Just after Chavez called Bush "the Devil" at the UN, while the polite Corporate rapists and murderers of this world were dissing him for it, the people of Venezuela gave him a resounding victory at the polls--he won reelection with 63% of the vote.

Two weeks before that election--with the "devil" charge ringing round the globe--Lulu da Silva visited Chavez for the opening of the new Orinoco Bridge between their two countries. He could have put it off. He didn't. It was an implied--but very pointed--endorsement.

Shortly after this, Rafael Correa--a U.S.-educated leftist economist and advocate for the poor--who was running for president of Ecuador neck and neck with a rightwing banana magnate--was asked what he thought of Chavez's "devil" remark, and he said (with a laugh) that it was in insult to the devil. He won his election with 60% of the votes.

These new leftist (majoritist) leaders of South America--Chavez in Venezuela, Correa in Ecuador, Morales in Bolivia, Kirchner in Argentina, Lulu in Brazil. Batchelet in Chile, Vazquez in Uruguay, and the emerging new leftist leaders in Peru and Paraguay--are the products of a vast sea change in democratic representation in these countries, the result of long hard work by grass roots organizations on social issues, and by the OAS, the Carter Center, EU election monitoring groups and local civic groups on TRANSPARENT elections. It is no accident that all of these leaders are arising at once to speak for the vast poor populations of South America, never before represented in government, and to repair the devastated economies of this continent, recently ravaged by global corporate predators in cahoots with local rich elites, after decades and centuries of brutal, often US-backed, rightwing dictatorships.

Critically important, they are banding together with all kinds of mutual aid and common projects--and have begun talks on a South American "Common Market" and common currency (to get off the US dollar). A hallmark of this movement is regional self-determination, and most especially, the use of a country's natural resources for the benefit of the people who live there, as well as the common benefit of the region. (Venezuela's oil profits, for instance, have been used to bail Argentina and Ecuador out of onerous World Bank debt--vitally important to restoring social programs in education, health care, land reform and help for small businesses). A giant US corporation was thrown out of one country (Bolivia evicted Bechtel over water privatization), and others are being required to actually pay fair taxes for the extraction of oil and other resources.

So, when Chavez jokes about sending "sulfur" to Lulu in Brazil, he knows that they are all aware of why Bush is visiting Brazil--to try "divide and conquer," and other Bush Junta tactics--bribery, bullying, blackmail, threats--and no doubt to meet with and encourage the worst rightwing elements in the region. Most of all, the Bush Junta wants to divide Brazil from the Andean democracies (Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela), and try to kill the Bolivarian notion of a "United States of South America." The South Americans are playing a wily game in many ways. They are not anti-investment. They are not especially anti-capitalist. All of them are pursuing mixed capitalist/socialist economies. But they want investment to be ON THEIR TERMS. They are asserting their sovereignty, really, for the first time in their history.

As Evo Morales has said: "We want partners, not masters."

But that's not the way Bushites play the game, as we know.

It will be interesting to see how far Bush gets with Lulu (a former steelworker, and leader of the third world revolt at the WTO in Cancun a few years ago). Bush needs to score some points for the Corporate Reich, he has been such a miserable failure in so many ways, and is so universally detested at home and abroad. He's given Corporate Rule a bad name. And he may be worried, at this point, about avoiding jail. So Lulu has the advantage.

Bush will also be taking a big fat check to the Colombian "drug war" fascists--in the midst of a huge scandal about the paramilitaries in Colombia. Another four billion or so of US taxpayers money.

This is a very, very odd thing for Bush to be doing right now--visiting South America. Isn't he supposed to be "surging" or something? On to "victory" in Iraq? Do they figure they've lost those oil fields, and have to look south? Dunno. But Bush can't visit MOST South American countries. Huge protests would erupt. He's going to Mexico (corporatist gov't; oil), Guatemala (rightwing gov't; scene of horrid slaughters of Mayan Indians under Reagan), Uruguay (mostly Europen population--leftist gov't), and Brazil (very chancy for Bush, as to protests).

Meanwhile, Iraq descends into chaos.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:20 AM
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7. You really HAVE to wonder why Bush is going now, it's true. It may be that they've decided
they can't afford to let any more time go by before he materializes in their midst to remind them of his power, for intimidation purposes.

It just may be that Lula, although a remarkable, beloved President is also, in Bush's mind, easier for an American wealthy Republican to intimdate on a "class" level, and they hope to shove him around a bit, psychologically.

If that's the case, he has a little reminder in that funny gift from Chavez during his meeting with the beast, that he will have a lot of friends invisibly "with" him, in spirit, after all, all over Latin America, who are building the real "New World" together, and that world would be impossible for someone like Bush to understand. It's all beyond him, after all.

His world operates on greed and hatred. The world ahead doesn't.
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carla Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:21 AM
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11. I can't imagine *
will be very intimidating. I am hoping he gets "Montezuma's Revenge" and can emulate his fathers vomiting/fainting spell in Japan, though in a manner befitting the defecation he has dumped on this small blue planet. Sorry, I normally don't wish anyone illness or harm, but * deserves many an embarrassing and uncomfortable moment for the rest of his, hopefully short, life.

Forgive me, I have let my baser nature out for a quick romp. It won't happen again.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:27 AM
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14. It would be doing them all a great favor if he just left early, to be sure!
It would be excellent seeing that swaggering little jackass handed a situation he couldn't joke or bully his way out of.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:33 AM
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9. "...asked what he thought of Chavez's "devil" remark...it was in insult to the devil."
Love it! :rofl:

Has anyone in the so-called MSM even mentioned this trip to South America? I gave up on T.V. "news" months ago.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 07:21 AM
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10. Brimstone for Bush. Perfect.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:26 AM
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12. Nice Joke
A great joke for the living room, but by a national leader in front of the world stage...I dunno.
I guess with all the good he has done for Venezuela they can forgive him his lack of tact.
Interesting that the American media picks up on HIS interesting wordplay more than our own president's however.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:25 AM
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13. Considering the horrendous calamity Bush has ushered into the world,
you'd think the journalists would feel obligated to adopt a more responsible tone in their work, wouldn't you?

Idiots. I hope they appreciate how their low instincts have contributed to a much bleaker, more desperate world. They are cheap hustlers, nothing more.

Instead of squinting off toward Venezuela for suspected national slights or insults, which we, as a country have NOT received from Hugo Chavez, writers and tv journalists should be helping focusing on the real problems we REALLY have to deal with, so we can get resolutions we desperately need NOW.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:29 AM
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15. What a clown show.
Bush is a boob and the worst president ever, but this is just juvenile.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:59 AM
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16. It's called humor. Maybe it doesn't read well to North Americans
but as a latina, I think it's hilarious. Chavez is great at needling the Decider.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:55 PM
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22. I am not a latina, just married a latino and then divorced him,
but I find this hilarious also. I get British humor and that of other countries more to my liking than most American style humor. The Daily Show - yes, but most comedy movies - no. I do like some tv comedy shows, but they are the ones that have to be explained to some people, if you know what I mean. B-)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:04 PM
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24. I do. Comedy values differ from culture to culture.
Chavez may seem over the top to many North Americans but to some of us, he's very funny. The thing is, his humor depends upon not taking himself too seriously. Can you imagine Warner or McCain making such a gesture? It would be impossible because their whole thing depends on some kind of self-inflating ego that we take for granted here.

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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:53 PM
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25. I guess that humor varies from culture to culture is true.
I remember being told jokes that were so funny to those who heard them in Spanish, but when they translated them into English for me they were just lame. It took me a couple of years (I have a weird type of memory), and then I would think about the joke, changing the wording a bit it would then become very funny. Of course, I am not really a joke person anyway. Could not tell one to save my life. But I can be sarcastic and make people laugh without even meaning to.

Humor is what the poor use to get through the hunger of the hard times, what the ill use to endure the pain, and what the hopeless use to find the hope they cannot find anywhere else. It is a survival tool and that is something that those who have never had to survive could understand.

Some of our politicians are pompous asses and have forgot what it is like to be one of the people, if they ever knew in the first place. Their egos and ambitions are more important than anything and they have no interest in the people they are suppose to be representing. They have no need for humor.

Sorry for getting off subject, had a tiring day.


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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:44 PM
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19. Kick n/t
:kick:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:37 PM
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20. I imagine in my mind
seeing Lula w/extended hand, holding the vial before El Mono, like someone would hold holy water in front of a vampire.

I need a photo of Lula for a little photomanip.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:02 PM
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23. Maybe he can send this country some.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:56 PM
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26. A couple of cargo ships full of it!
We got a lot of * to clear out. ;-)
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