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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:18 AM
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(ABC) Cheney Holds Firm on Iraq, Pelosi Comments

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2897919&page=1

Cheney Holds Firm on Iraq, Pelosi Comments
The Vice President Touts Iraq Achievements, North Korea Nuke Agreement

SYDNEY, Australia, Feb. 23, 2007 — Vice President Dick Cheney continued his war of words with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi in an exclusive interview with ABC News today.

"My statement was that if we adopt the Pelosi policy, is that we will validate the strategy of al Qaeda," Cheney said. "I said it, and I meant it."

...

"A failed strategy? Let's see. We didn't fail when we got rid of Saddam," Cheney said. "We didn't fail when we held elections. We didn't fail when we got a constitution written. Those are all success stories."

Asked whether it had been a failure to see more than 3,000 American soldiers killed and a virtual civil war raging, Cheney stood his ground.

"You wish there was never a casualty," he said. "Always regret when you have casualties, but we are at war. And we have to succeed where we've begun this venture. And we can."

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:22 AM
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1. I wonder what he hopes to accomplish with these words.
Look behind you, Shooter. Your coalition is going home, the Repubs on the Hill are in revolt, and the American public has had it.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:23 AM
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2. Typically republican - I'm too proud to admit I'm wrong
and I have a whole bunch of synchophants with microphones that will cheer me on and beat up on these detractors all the while hiding behind those microphones.

bush, cheney, limbaugh, hannity etc have been supporting and validating and giving al-quaeda a reason for existence for four years. They have a reason to hate Americans and kill themselves because of it.

saddam's gone and iraq has a constitution. So why are we still there? We certainly aren't fighting terrorism.

It must truly suck being a conservative who must look in the mirror every morning knowing they have supported an incompetent liar for all these years.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:28 AM
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3. To a Republic, admitting they're wrong is...
A sign of weakness. So they're going to be big, burly men and women and stand up while the ashes fall around them. I think alot of it is machismo.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:36 AM
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4. Australia, please do not let that man leave your country. Throw him into the
darkest, worst prison you have. Do you still have any penal colonies left?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:13 AM
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5. "And we have to succeed where we've begun this venture."
Notice Cheney says this "this venture". As in business venture.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:38 PM
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16. Darth wouldn't say "this trillion-dollar Venture We charge the taxpayers...
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:43 PM by Amonester
so We can reap millions in our own Options pack$" and "We can continue to over-charge Them at the pump also" ...

Of course, the dicktraitorturer Would not say that, even if that's What it's all about ... :grr:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:40 PM
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17. Exactly. "Venture" always indicates business. bushco is a mafia.
Everything they do is about amassing power and wealth for a very small group of their closest "associates."
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:21 PM
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23. That's what I noticed. "Succeed" "Venture" The CEO preznitcy
They are wedded to the concept that if we are big enough bullies, if we kill sufficient numbers of people, the world will see it our way. They ignore the fact that the world was, in fact, behind us on Sept. 12th. It would not have been weak, it would not have been seeing terrorism as a law enforcement problem, to have proceeded more soberly, to have enlisted more allies. These neocon gasbags will not admit they were arrogant, greedy, and that their policy of using our unilateral military power to enforce corporate greed and resource plundering is not a winning strategy.

Cheney is, of course, on the winning side - an enormous success - of the wealth transfer that this war has caused domestically. It's hard for him to relate to the peasants. We're watching our country dissolve before our very eyes. We're seeing hope fade into the distance. But Cheney. He sees enormous success. Don't stop creating more terrorists. Don't stop destroying our economy. Don't stop destroying our morale and our institutions. More! Stay the course. If you disagree with any of our insane policies, you are obviously a cheese-eating surrender monkey. There are no options. You are with us, or against us. Nothing we do can be in error.

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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:29 AM
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6. Pelosi's mistake was going whining to White House, time to call the crazy bastard, a crazy bastard.
Take the gloves off and kick Big Dick in the nuts, Nancy.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:25 AM
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11. 'The time has come' for Pelosi to cease being nice to the White House
some boxing gloves?
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:27 PM
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12. Brass knuckles
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:50 PM
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19. fucking eh nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:32 AM
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7. What a sterling list of accomplishments
They got rid of Saddam. La de fucking dah. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority opinion in Iraq was that things were better under Saddam right about now.

They held elections. So? Did that install a stable government? Did it put the lights on for more than an hour a day? Did it put people back to work?

They got a constitution written. Yawn. And in the middle of a civil war, what use is it? It's as if the officers and crew of the Titanic passed a resolution that the ship shouldn't sink after it hit the iceberg.

And then the very real list of the ongoing failures? The death, the mayhem, the waste of money? Dismissed with an airy wave of his demon's claw. After all, his buddies at ExxonMobil cleared nearly $40 billion last year! Laissez les bon temps roulez!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:32 AM
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8. All I can say is Go Fuck Yourself cheney.
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:48 AM
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9. As the former head of Halliburton, I guess he WOULD think it was a success.
War profiteering has been a very successful "venture" for 5-deferment Dick.
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:32 PM
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13. Cheney just lucked into it
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:34 PM by jaksavage
It is the Walker/Bush family which has made fortunes on the wars of our nation for a century. They only have to make a paycheck every ten years or so. But that paycheck is staggering, and all their closest friends are rewarded as well. Because their business is war.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:48 PM
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18. And That paycheck has the taxpayers' bank account number ...
printed on it... :mad:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:23 AM
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10. Cheney is not safe to let loose around the world (& huge embarassment!)
tie him up before he causes more harm!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:36 PM
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14. I'll hold firm to DU'er Martin Eden comment: Dick Cheney empowers our enemies
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:36 PM by maddezmom
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:36 PM
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15. No doubt about who is in charge in the White House. It appears
they have dropped any pretenses over who calls the shots. The coup has become public. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:00 PM
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21. should it be any surprise to us who is in charge
both cheney and bush are evil evil men, both have an agenda to screw us and this country, and the world for that fact.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:32 PM
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25. I have long thought that Iraq was a Petri dish for the
"New World Order" which is the neo con vision of the world. If they could make it work in Iraq, they were going to force it on the rest of the third world.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:58 PM
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20. the only thing cheney can understand "FU Mr. Cheney!"
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:15 PM
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22. Take the "blanking" gloves off, or ignore him
It's a tough call, since Dick has about as much credibility with the American people as Howard K. Stern does, it's tempting to just ignore him. I think the only people that listen to Cheney anymore are the 10 Percenter's. It's tempting to simply look in the camera and say; "Who cares what he thinks".

On the other hand, it's tempting to point out that "Ole 5 deferment Dick didn't have the courage to stand-up and fight for his country when his country needed him. Who the hell is he to lecture about patriotism. He'd cry like a little girl if he had to walk point. He should go shoot some more defenseless quail, or 75 year old lawyers, or something."
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:59 PM
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24. Little Dick's the poster boy on every Al Qaeda recruiting poster
They need each other.
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