Chavez says Bush's Latin America tour doomed to failure

[NeoConsSuck]

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Saturday that he saw U.S. President George W. Bush's upcoming tour to Latin America as a diplomatic offensive aimed at isolating his leftist government.
Chavez said that Bush's planned trip was "without a doubt" aimed at dividing the region and containing Venezuela's influence.

"But it's too late. I think the U.S. president now has nothing to find in Latin America. It is an offensive destined to the abyss of failure," Chavez told a news conference.

Chavez said he respected the decision by other Latin American nations to "receive this little gentleman," but in Venezuela, "we will never receive him. Never. Because we know what he is. This is nothing personal."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-24-venezuela-bush_x.htm

[oldtimecanuk]

1. God I love his straight shooting.. hahaha.... He isn't one bit intimidated ..

by Bush or his minions.... Way to go Hugo.... You are my hero...

ww

[demflehm]

18. Guess how long "your hero"would wait before terminating the freedom

to condemn something not chavez!Funny how protestors always protest from where it is safe! Please try not to be so deceived.

[demflehm]

20. would someone please explain how bashing Bush superceedes

supporting one who denies the liberties that are enjoyed here?

[Vidar]

25. Freedoms are only being denied to corporations who have mistreated

the people for years. Corporate " freedom" too often results in poverty & disease for the people, who are more entitled to the resources.

[Binka]

26. Would Someone Please Explain Your Presence Here? n/t

[rman]

29. Actually i was a bit worried

about the absence of Concern Types in this thread.
It's quite a relief to see one.

[VegasWolf]

60. ROFL!!!!!

[carla]

36. Posting isn't only

a way of spouting ignorant opinions. Please support your assertion. What liberties would those be? Price-gouging? Slandering? Pres. Hugo Chavez is a populist leader with the interests of the majority of Venezuelans at heart. His actions have proven this point on numerous occasions. His desire to be fair has also shown itself numerous times, if you only took the time to research his actions. Your prejudices are transparent and you should spend some time getting to know the topic (Chavez and Venezuela) before going off half-cocked. Perhaps that would allow you to say something informed and sensible.

[demflehm]

54. Carla you are Dinggleheimer! Don't play that what crap with me ok!

The very liberties you use to poison a nation are not available to the citizens of Venezuela like freedom of speech or press or to elect the next president of their country. You are deceived! To call you "half cocked" would be a compliment. K&R pulling your head out of the sand - or preferably move to Venezuela. Ps. I think this explains my presence here.

[Arugula Latte]

41. demflehm (nice name, BTW) -- if you're concerned about liberties,

I'm sure you must have been devastated when Bush flushed habeus corpus down the crapper, huh?

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[rman]

28. Chavez has already been waiting over 8 years

to terminate any freedoms. All that time Chavez haters have been making predictions about the bad things he'll do.

[Judi Lynn]

30. Good point! He's probably hoping to catch the country off guard!

Shows how truly sneaky he is, being so patient!

[Pavulon]

2. They love that big oil money we send

we are their number one customer. No us oil sales, no Animal Farm.

[1932]

9. They love selling their oil for what's it's worth and having the money

work for Venezuela.

[Pavulon]

10. it is overpriced at 60

worth 30, maybe. He is no different than th efat guy from exxon, except he is a left leaning "hero". Still an oil pimp.
Better to go to corn or agri fuel. Us benefits, wackos world wide loose the petro money. Brazil did it, so can we.

[Flanker]

17. You really think it is30 bucks a pop?

Ha it si closer to 10 than 15. If Exxon executives donated all of their money to charity I would not mind them either.

[Pavulon]

21. I'd rather pay 50

for bio fuel. Pump money into the farming community. The money is not the worst part of it. The fact it goes to assholes bugs me. (canada ane mexico are ok)

At least the fat guy kept his mouth closed while robbing me at the pump. You thing all the billions we send down there would buy us some silence. He bitches about harry reid, so he is an asshole. Every body loves him like he has done jack shit here.

Chavez should shave his crotch and start hanging out with paris hilton. If he wants to keep his press up he has to do something.

He is an oil pimp.

[Flanker]

31. Harry Reid is too rightwing for him to be a sacred cow.

And it is naive to think farmers will get the profits instead of corporations.

[Pavulon]

34. Better ADM

than Saudis and communistas. A shift to bio fuel would collapse the economy of the middle east and other petro states.

Farms are corporations. They sell to other corporations who turn biomass into b100. That makes money, that stays and is taxed here.

[Hunky Dunky]

47. But, if the money

stays in circulation in our own economy, that would be preferable than having it siphoned off to another country, particularly an OPEC country that has a monopoly on the product, right? Also, you would agree that we should be energy independent from foreign countries, right?

[jhasp]

58. No it isn't

My grandfather farms soybeans and corn and his profits have increased considerably due to biofuels (speculation on biofuels is driving prices up) also the value of his land has increased dramatically in the past year to about $3,000 per acre (in central MO).

[Hunky Dunky]

32. Agreed.

Given the choice of spending fuel dollars to enrich a foreign country or spending it within to strengthen our own economy, the choice is a no brainer. No one with an ounce of sense would want to have their country energy dependent on a foreign country. We need to invest our dollars at home, not with Chavez. He threatens to cut off our supply, so let him! That would be the biggest favor he could do for us. Nothing like good dose of cold turkey to ween us off the pimp's teat!

[1932]

23. If it should be 30, then why is it 60?

[Pavulon]

35. Because of market manipulation

Every tine some one farts in nigeria oil jumps. No way. See the fat guy from Exxon and the massive spending by petro states to see where your money goes.

[1932]

53. Explain the market manipulation to me in more detail.

[Selatius]

3. Bush, in Latin America, has become the supreme example of the "ugly american"

He represents the face of corporate pillaging and American imperialism of their lands.

[oldtimecanuk]

5. Yep, and they seem to be banding together very nicely under..

President Chavez.... To me this man has extreme charisma!

ww

[madrchsod]

4. hell anyone with a functioning brain knows

bush`s trip is doomed the moment they announced it

[ninkasi]

24. A man who is a failure

can only produce failure. For whatever his faults, Chavez has at least lifted many of his fellow citizens out of starvation, and many of them love him. Bush has pushed more Americans into poverty during his years in office. Remind me, how many wars has Chavez started?

[Benhurst]

6. George W. Bush's Latin American diplomatic offensive ...

Offensive is the operative word.

[MasonJar]

7. Chavez has experienced the "little" (minded) man's attempt to unseat

him from his elected position. He has taken the only course open to him...constant vigilance and constant reminder to the world of the US potential to overturn elected governments where the US sees fit. Good for Hugo for standing tall against American imperialism. I am embarrassed to be an American and have been for 6 years now.

[VegasWolf]

8. Bush was doomed to failure with the first pitiful breath of air he took. nt

[demflehm]

19. Realy? target remains.

[carla]

37. Sadly,

so do you...

[VegasWolf]

46. Don'cha realize how intellectually crippled, morally handicapped, and vacuous

the marble-mouthed current resident of the white house is yet. You do see that given enough money even the monkey boy can be President of the United States of Murikka don't you?

[demflehm]

57. Try looking into a mirror. sonner the better.

[VegasWolf]

59. As an intellectual, I prefer to look later rather than "sonner" (sic).

Do you have an articulate point ( try using somewhat correct English syntax, grammar and spelling )that could possibly validate your ridiculous assertion that Bush is not an incompetent, small minded, and vacuous little person.

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[Peace Patriot]

11. I have to agree with his prognosis. And frankly this Bush junket strikes me as

damned strange. Isn't he supposed to be "surging" or something? On to "victory" in Iraq? Isn't the entire U.S. military over there, fighting and dying, and lurking in the Persian Gulf?

I mean, what gives with this? There is hardly a South American country that Bush can safely show his face in. Colombia maybe. He's taking a $4 billion check there, to beef up the death squads, but even there, there is a huge scandal right now about the paramilitaries. And Uribe has shown no interest in engaging in plots against Chavez. South America for South Americans seems to have caught on even in Colombia.

His other stops:

Mexico: Obviously to schmooze with Calderon about oil, compare notes on stealing elections, and perhaps deliver a check for CS gas and other weapons to beat down the people of Oaxaca. Better stay out of Mexico City.

Guatemala: Like most of Latin America, a big leftist (majorityist) movement, led by Nobel peace prize winner Rigoberta Menchu (running for president; like Evo Morales in Bolivia, 100% indigenous); scene of the slaughter of 200,000 Mayan Indians in the '80s, with Reagan's direct complicity; aim is probably to head off Menchu (somehow) and encourage a return of the death squads.

Uruguay. Leftist government, mostly European population. To encourage the fascists and stir up racism against brown heads of state?

Brazil: Ah, Brazil! There's a prize! But Lulu will have none of it, I assure you. He has the advantage. He'll squeeze Bush for items of benefit to Brazil and the region. He is a friend of Chavez, and was the leader of the big third world country revolt at the WTO meeting in Cancun a few years ago. Brazil is already seeing benefit from Venezuela's regional largesse, in bailing Argentina out of World Bank/IMF debt, creating a good trading partner for Brazil, Venezuela and others. And they just opened a new bridge between Brazil and Venezuela over the Orinoco River. They are talking about a South American "Common Market" and common currency--which may be why Bush is going to Brazil--to try to head that off. Also, Brazil is a big country--plenty of places to hide Bush and his U.S.-flagged entourage, to avoid any unseemly behavior by large crowds of Brazilians.

That's it. Most of the continent is off limits to Bush.

I think it has something to do with the Corporate Reich that put Bush/Cheney in power. They are not happy. Bush has "lost" South America. Plundering the Middle East has not turned out to be a cakewalk. And South America has ceased being easy pickins--with its tough new leftist governments with awesome democratic support, all banding together. What's a Corporate Reich to do? So Bush has to score some points--or possibly his sponsors will abandon him? Something like that. It's odd the countries he is NOT going to. Paraguay. Maybe too many jokes and dire looks about that all over South America. Peru--where he could schmooze with bought and paid for president Alan Garcia. He could score there--some more "free trade," some cocaine (but Garcia likely won't be able to control leftist protests). No Paraguay. No Peru. No Ecuador. No Bolivia. No Argentina (where daughters cavorted recently). No Venezuela. No Chile (a surprise--or did socialist President Michele Batchelet--who was tortured by US-backed Pinochet--tell Condi Rice to go jump out of an airplane, when she came sidling down there to prep for Mr. Guantanamo Bay? If I was Michele Batchelet, I would have.). Where else can't Bush go? Nicaragua (Daniel Ortega, President! Har-har-har-har-har-har!). Maybe Bush will pull a surprise and drop in on Castro, and open his remarks with, "Love is never having to say you're sorry."

I'm getting crazy. Why is Bush going to South America, with the US fleet in the Persian Gulf, and our boys and girls dying for his puppetmaster's "Grand Illusion"?

[Cha]

49. Four Billion $$$$$$ of our

tax money to "beef up death squads" when our country could use in now in New Orleans and many other parts of the country?!!

[gorbal]

50. Clap (Great Post)

Is Peru closed off to him?

It's good to have president "jerk" Bush in the news. The comparison between his fading poll numbers and his climing ones will just kill in Latin America.

[Peace Patriot]

12. I've got it! I've got it! Bush's plane hijacked over Colombia. Cheney bombs

Venezuela! --and becomes Master of the Universe!

[IndianaGreen]

14. 6-years ago I would have said that such a scenario was deserving of tin foil

Knowing how evil and devious the Bush regime is, I wouldn't put it past them to pull some sort of wacko stunt.

[Patchuli]

22. or...the Dark Side wins? nt

[IndianaGreen]

13. Bush is as popular in Latin America as genital herpes

Knowing that he will be as welcome as Nixon was in the 1950s, why is the White House staging this trip? I hope that Bush is not trying to stage some incident in order to proclaim that there are Al-Qaeda agents and influence in Latin America.

[durtee librul]

15. You guys missed it ALL!!!!!

He's also going to clear brush on his new ranch in Paraguay. Unreal. Can't believe y'all missed the real reason for his trip.

As far as him in MX, I was there last week on a business trip to San Luis Potosi and the folks there also don't 'care' for *. Not one nice word about him or Vincente. Said the new pres will be fine as long as he keeps his mouth shut and just lets the people do their work and leaves them alone. Said he could play at Prez just like ours does except without the army to invade other countries.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

45. I was wondering about Paraguay

[Judi Lynn]

27. Could be he's still curious about whether or not there are actually black people in Brazil!

Who ON EARTH would have ever thought the President of a country would ever be anyone who never had any interest whatsoever in history, or even accidently overheard a fact or two during his life? My God.

Just a simply glance at a map any clown could find in a fast search would have kept the poor bastard from looking so astonishingly foolish:

[carla]

39. But Judi,

that would require that he be curious about the world. But then again, he is "curious"...

[Judi Lynn]

43. Strange qualities to see in a "President," wouldn't you say?

_Bush near his fellow Presidents.



_Bush and his friend, Ricky Martin, dancing
in front of the statue of Abraham Lincoln.

[IndianaGreen]

42. On a side note, the number of African slaves sent to the Americas equal the Holocaust

Jewish victims. When are the descendants of those slaves going to get their much delayed justice?

[Judi Lynn]

44. That's the first time I ever saw the comparison. Makes you sick, doesn't it,

to even attempt to imagine just how many people thrown into hell that really is, and how damned sad?

[otherlander]

16. Well, I could have told you that.

:)

[Judi Lynn]

33. Texas Congresswoman Urges Bush to Reconsider Venezuela Arms Ban

Texas Congresswoman Urges Bush to Reconsider Venezuela Arms Ban

Thursday, Feb 22, 2007

By: Associated Press

CARACAS, Venezuela -- A U.S. congresswoman called on the Bush administration Wednesday to reconsider its ban on selling parts for U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to Venezuela, urging improved ties between the two nations.

U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a Texas Democrat, told reporters that she was making the first U.S. congressional visit to Venezuela since President Hugo Chavez's December re-election with the message: "I want an immediate repairing of the relations between the United States and Venezuela."

Jackson Lee described Venezuela as a friendly nation that the U.S. should cooperate with and said that the F-16 jets, which are built in Texas, was an issue of concern to her constituents in Houston.

Pledging to "personally go back and raise" the issue, she called for the U.S. Congress "to reconsider sanctions on the F-16s."
(snip/...)

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=2224

[ProudDad]

52. Rep. Jackson-Lee should know

the bushies don't trade with people who actually win democratic elections!!!

[goforit]

38. "little gentleman"??? I liked his honesty of a little "devil" last year better.

[Arugula Latte]

40. Smack him down, Hugo!

And smack him hard!

We're sorry that piece of Texan caca our country has inflicted on the world must contaminate your shores ...

[Cha]

48. "little gentleman"..haha

Chavaz should have said "little man"..bush is no gentleman.

When is the devil going to South America?