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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 05:57 PM
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Republicans abandoning Bush
Source: NBC/WSJ

WASHINGTON - As President Bush attempts to revive the controversial immigration reform bill he supports, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that Republicans are abandoning the president, which has dropped his job-approval rating below 30 percent -- his lowest mark ever in the survey.

But he isn’t the only one whose support is on the decline in the poll. Congress’ approval rating has plummeted eight points, bringing it below even Bush’s. And just one in five believe the country is on the right track, which is the lowest number on this question in nearly 15 years.

Republican pollster Neil Newhouse, who conducted the survey with Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, argues that these numbers have crossed below the political “Mendoza line,” referring to the feeble .200 batting-average mark in baseball. “With the mood of the country dropping below 20, and the president’s approval below 30, both are candidates for a sort of political Mendoza line,” he says.

In the poll, Bush’s approval rating is at just 29 percent. It’s a drop of six points since April, and it represents his lowest mark ever on this question in the NBC/Journal poll.



Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19209733/



Was also broadcast in the NBC nightly news.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:00 PM
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1. The republicans are passive-aggressive in this way:
They won't go with * like lemmings off a cliff, but OTOH, they won't vote with the democrats in either House.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:04 PM
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2. It's worse than that - Tey'll blame Bush, not the party
The danger of focusing on the chimp is that it gives the Republicans an opportunity to dodge responsibility.

They can claim that Bush does not really represent Republican values and they will continue to support the same rabid reactionary right-wing retrograde republican rhetoric.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:11 PM
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3. Yeppers
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:52 PM
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13. A case in point...
Poll: Rural Vote No Longer a Lock for Republicans

Greener would like the approach taken by Jefferson, Iowa, Republican Judy VanAhlsen. "I believe in home <and> family," VanAhlsen says. "I believe in the sanctity of life. And the <Republican> party…seems to support those things. I don't like all the people. I don't agree with everything they stand for. But those basic issues to me are not worth abandoning ship."


--more--
npr

The GOP is full of people like Mrs. VanAhlsen...




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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:16 PM
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17. If she believes in the sanctity of life why did he support the war in Iraq?
Edited on Wed Jun-13-07 09:18 PM by yardwork
Because we know she did support the war, even if she says she didn't now.

I call b.s. on all the reasons that Republicans give for voting Republican. The real truth is that the Republican Party appeals to greedy bigots because it justifies their greedy bigotry.

edit: spelling
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:37 AM
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32. Whatever you say.....
I have lots of relatives (direct and in-laws) who vote Republican and they are all decent people who've worked long and hard during their lives and they've succeeded in making things better for themselves. They help the less fortunate in their area and they are all involved in their community.

But you just go ahead painting people with that big broad brush of your's if it makes you feel superior.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:28 AM
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35. If you think that supporting Republicans is an example of decency
then you might be in the wrong place. There used to be decent Republican politicians, but they're gone now. The crew that took over our country over the past couple of decades are the opposite of decent. They DON'T help the "less fortunate" - they help themselves and their cronies. The only way they're "involved in their communities" is to pillage and destroy it, and the rest of the neighborhood, and the rest of the world.

Am I sickened by anyone who supports Republicans in 2007? You bet I am. Give me one valid reason why I should not be.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 05:02 PM
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39. your inlaws don't act like republicans do they
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:51 PM
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40. if they are still voting repuke
they are not decent people
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 10:22 PM
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28. Must be one of those "Children of the Corn" people
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:14 PM
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4. 29%! Still!! How is this possible? eom
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:18 PM
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6. WSJ - Different polling sample
Take away 5% for polling bias.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:18 PM
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7. People are idiots.
I am surrounded by such people.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:23 PM
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9. Me too.
How depressing.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:57 AM
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30. Tee hee.....
I'm assuming the "NC" in your ID stands for North Carolina? Maybe not, but I lived there for awhile and boy, you can feel outnumbered sometimes can't you?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:21 AM
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33. Oh yeah!
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 08:22 AM by NC_Nurse
Some of what passes for logic and political thought here is really amazing.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 04:41 PM
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38. So it hasn't changed much since I left in 1993?
I tell people that I really, really miss the weather and geography of NC and would love to live there again if only they could get rid of the Southerners!
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:24 PM
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10. ...
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RaRa Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:20 PM
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8. It's easier to blame an institution than to admit they're wrong
Same goes for impeachment. People may think what the Bush administration is worthy of impeachment, but they can't stomach it because it would mean really admitting to themselves how wrong they were about the war.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:16 PM
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5. Last I checked
they were still trying to please Bush in Congress and protecting his todie Gonzales' ass from justice.

I'll belive they are abamndoning Bush when I see them move against him. Until then it is all just rheotorical bullshit to try to net a few suckers for the upcoming elections. After all, Republicans are a trusting lot....they will convince themselves that they never believed in Bush in the first place....what they WANT to believe is gospel.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:43 PM
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27. really ... they've been "abandoning" him for some time now
this is nothing new--Rs have been "abandoning" the little assclown for probably a year or more now--yet somehow the Ds can never make any headway opposing him on anything. So I totally agree--they are just, like typical repukes, making meaningless noises.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:30 PM
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11. Well then they better abandon the whole party
Because the Republican Party stood behind Bush the entire time, they can not just pretend Bush is a single bad apple when the entire apple orchard is filled with rotting fruit.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 06:42 PM
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12. What is with this 30% approval rating already?
It has been that for well over a year and then some. It just hangs there and they treat it as though it had just dropped to 30% in each latest survey.
What is the real number anyway? 20%? 10%?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 07:08 PM
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14. Yet they still keep the Democratic majority fromt even bringing a no confidence vote to the floor --
-- a no-confidence vote of a perjurer and liar in the Justice Department.

Explain that to me.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 07:26 PM
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15. It's the other way around
That explains why the congressional approval plummeted as well.

People are pissed, and this is a wakeup call for congress.

On both sides of the isle...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:00 PM
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16. And in this report from the North Atlantic:
Large numbers of rats have been seen deserting the Titanic as she slowly sinks into the briny deep.

Bwahahahahahahah!
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:32 PM
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18. Follow up story - Bush job rating hits record low in NBC/WSJ poll
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's approval rating has dropped to 29 percent in an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday, his lowest mark ever in that survey, which also found only 23 percent approved of the job Congress was doing.

Bush's approval rating slid 6 points from 35 percent in April, NBC said, citing a decline in support within his own Republican Party. Sixty-six percent said they disapproved of Bush's job performance.

In the poll, 62 percent of Republicans approved of Bush's job performance, down from 75 percent in April. Thirty-two percent of Republicans in the latest poll disapproved of Bush's performance, up from 21 percent in April.

NBC tied the drop in Republican support to Bush's efforts to promote an immigration reform measure that many conservative Republicans oppose. Polls have also shown a decline in Bush's popularity due to the war in Iraq.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070614/pl_nm/bush_poll_dc_1
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:34 PM
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19. Abandoning him publicly to enact the same policies if elected.
They're all the same. Every last one of them.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:38 PM
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20. Bush Job Rating Hits Record Low In NBC/WSJ Poll
Source: Reuters

Bush job rating hits record low in NBC/WSJ poll

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's approval rating has dropped to 29 percent in an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released on Wednesday, his lowest mark ever in that survey, which also found only 23 percent approved of the job Congress was doing.

Bush's approval rating slid 6 points from 35 percent in April, NBC said, citing a decline in support within his own Republican Party. Sixty-six percent said they disapproved of Bush's job performance.

In the poll, 62 percent of Republicans approved of Bush's job performance, down from 75 percent in April. Thirty-two percent of Republicans in the latest poll disapproved of Bush's performance, up from 21 percent in April.

NBC tied the drop in Republican support to Bush's efforts to promote an immigration reform measure that many conservative Republicans oppose. Polls have also shown a decline in Bush's popularity due to the war in Iraq.

MORE

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070614/pl_nm/bush_poll_dc
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:38 PM
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21. Ironically, the only people who are happy with Bush are WSJ regulars.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:09 AM
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31. "giggle". . . eom
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:38 PM
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22. Congress at 23%
Edited on Wed Jun-13-07 09:27 PM by SoonerPride
If they'd actually STOP funding this war, their approval rating would soar into the 80s.

They still don't get it do they?

They've been cowed by the repukes for so long they don't understand that the American people want the mothereffin war OVER NOW!!

Bring the troops home IMMEDIATELY, got that Congress? BRING 'EM HOME!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:38 PM
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23. Too bad neither Prez Shit-for-Brains nor any of his close advisers really give a damn...
They plan to stay in power no matter what.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:38 PM
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24. These numbers are similar to the Quinnipac Poll numbers. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:38 PM
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25. that can`t be right..it has to be over 60% approval
well at least the house and senate certainly act like his numbers are that high...
no wonder no one believes the congress will do anything to change the direction of this country..
don`t they understand almost 70 % of the citizens do not like the way things are going?

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 09:38 PM
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26. How low can it GO?!!1 n/t
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 05:13 AM
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29. That's a mandate for Bush, he's still got Condi and Cheney. nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:16 AM
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34. when xenophobia trumps the call for cheap labor
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:56 AM
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36. Just wait until the election
by next summer you'll have thought GWB was the most liberal Democrat president since Carter... It's the only way the GOP can win.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:58 AM
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37. No worries, Mate
the boys are in the process of infesting the Democratic Party, just like they did when FDR took office. They're always on the winning side....

Keep an eye out on my blog for the coming attraction: The great Opportunist, how the boys are always on the 'Winning Side' and always there first to say the War is un winnable.
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